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51 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:19 pm

Marvel, pulling a Morrison?


Sheild? Spear? IBut those were mentioned in this issue of SHIELD.... Suspect

And there was some mention of the The Infinity Formula / Zodiac Event which was in one of the Steranko Strange tales issues.

Here's hoping Hickman ties this stuff into Fantastic Four as well. I smell conspiracies! Laughing

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52 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:44 pm

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I flipped through it and I'm going to see how this comes along and wait for the trade of this.

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53 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:32 am

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Dr. Wade Fucking McNasty wrote:Marvel, pulling a Morrison?


Sheild? Spear? IBut those were mentioned in this issue of SHIELD.... Suspect

And there was some mention of the The Infinity Formula / Zodiac Event which was in one of the Steranko Strange tales issues.

Here's hoping Hickman ties this stuff into Fantastic Four as well. I smell conspiracies! Laughing

Yessir! Hickman is like Morrison but without the acid. Laughing

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54 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:38 am

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S.H.I.E.L.D. #1

Man, am I disappointed. Coming off several phenomenal teaser images and bone-chilling preview pages, I imagined S.H.I.E.L.D., with all its high concepts, ultra-imaginative motivations, and wonderfully-detailed renaissance art, to be a perfect 10/10. Unfortunately, this highly-anticipated debut deserves only a 9.7/10. Why is it missing the 0.3? The protaganist is a mere reflecton of James Robinson's finest creation in Starman. Thus far throughout the illustrious exposition (some would refer to this debut as an extensive trailer), young Leonid--son of the Night Machine--has shown very little. If you've been following Hickman's work throughout Secret Warriors and Fantastic Four, however, you very well know that's his own doing.

Thankfully, that aspect of the issue is of little importance. The good news is--everything else in the issue is perfect. John Hickman lays out the groundwork for this retelling of the origin of S.H.I.E.L.D. through the eyes of its forefathers, along with all the great inventors, explorers and warriors that fought back against the evil many of our heroes (hello, Avengers!) fight today. Dustin Weaver's pencils are simply gorgeous. No need for ellaboraton.

I can't remember a debut this ambitious, awe-inspiring and flat-out fun since Morrison's Batman & Robin #1. While I'm no history of the world expert, or holster the most keen sense to sci-fi, S.H.I.E.L.D. in one issue alone has already jumped to the top of my favorites pile. Keep it going Hick', for I'm simply enthralled.

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55 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:28 pm

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This was awesome. I'm not sure what the fuck just happened, but it was awesome.

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56 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:25 pm

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Man was that awesome.

Hickman has again proved that my faith in him is well earned. The begining of the secret history of the MU was just spectacularly executed. This issue seemed kind of like and extended preview of what's to come, but every time I turned the page I was more and more in awe of what Hickman was laying out in front of me. All of the historical figures that popped up and the threats you see them running up against just made me drool for what's to come.

Weaver deserves allot of credit for this issue pulling off what it did, his pencils were inspired. The things he pulls off in this book are simply incredible. From Davinci's lab to ancient Egypt (which has a couple of surpise guest appearances) everything was just beautiful, Weaver has always impressed me but he blew me out of the water here.

If you missed this for some reason do yourself a favor and go pick this up, it's already a must read and we're only an issue in.

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57 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:30 pm

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Fresh03 wrote:From Davinci's lab to ancient Egypt (which has a couple of surpise guest appearances) everything was just beautiful

Bigtymin504 wrote:And the guy on the left of Imhotep, could that be the Ancient Egyptian Moon Knight?? Check out his weapon...



now check out the statue of Khonshu...



I'm gonna love this book. big grin

Hey Fresh, am I right about this or just crazy? Laughing

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58 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:03 pm

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I enjoyed the first issue a lot. I can't wait to see where the series goes.

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59 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:07 pm

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Hey Fresh, am I right about this or just crazy?

Oh, you're right, there's someone ele on the other side of Imhotep that's a bigger surprise.

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60 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:22 pm

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Fresh03 wrote:
Hey Fresh, am I right about this or just crazy?

Oh, you're right, there's someone ele on the other side of Imhotep that's a bigger surprise.
Yeah I spotted En Sabah immediately and geeked out...then I saw the other side and geeked out harder. Laughing

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61 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:41 pm

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Fresh03 wrote:
Hey Fresh, am I right about this or just crazy?

Oh, you're right, there's someone ele on the other side of Imhotep that's a bigger surprise.
Yeah I spotted En Sabah immediately and geeked out...then I saw the other side and geeked out harder. Laughing

Yeah, SHIELD is officially made of concentrated liquid awesome, man it's been a while since I've gotten all hyped up for a book and it didn't disappoint me at least a little, this one said "Me disappoint you?" then it punched me in the eye and said "Never doubt me Cock Sucker!!!"

This was about as close to a perfect comic as I've read in quite a while, the only thing I wanted was more of some back story on the main character, but that's coming for sure knowing Hickman so I was able to look past it and just enjoy what was given to me in the issue.

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62 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:55 pm

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Here's my problem with SHIELD #1... as much as I love the secret history of the MU stuff, I have ZERO interest in Leonid and the Night Machine as of right now. I'll give the book time, believe me, because... wow. But, yeah... the main characters are just too out there for me to care about after one issue.

Here's my other question... where's this going. It can't ALWAYS be about the secret history of the MU, right? I mean, they'll run out of historical figures. Is that going to be the first arc or so, and then have it jump to modern day Heroic Age SHIELD, and then pepper in the secret history stuff from time to time? I think THAT is what I'd most like to see.

Fresh03 wrote:
Yeah, SHIELD is officially made of concentrated liquid awesome, man it's been a while since I've gotten all hyped up for a book and it didn't disappoint me at least a little, this one said "Me disappoint you?" then it punched me in the eye and said "Never doubt me Cock Sucker!!!"

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63 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:46 pm

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Fresh03 wrote:
Hey Fresh, am I right about this or just crazy?

Oh, you're right, there's someone ele on the other side of Imhotep that's a bigger surprise.
Yeah I spotted En Sabah immediately and geeked out...then I saw the other side and geeked out harder. Laughing

Yeah, and the main guy has a Captain America thing going on.

That said, I COULDN'T RESIST:

Going for the obvious:

Spoiler:





Suspect

And so on the Da Vinci page (The Vitruvian Man page, the one with his "actual writings"), I looked about and saw this. This is apparently what the more legible part (bottom half) says:

Spoiler:
"The Human Machine

These rules are sufficient to enable you to know the true from the false--and this aids men to look only for things that are possible and with due moderation--and not to wrap yourself in ignorance, a thing which can have no good result, so that in despair you would give yourself up to melancholy. Among all the studies of natural causes and reasons Light chiefly delights the beholder; and among the great features of Mathematics the certainty of its demonstrations is what preeminently (tends to) elevate the mind of the investigator. Perspective, therefore, must be preferred to all the discourses and systems of human learning. In this branch [of science] the beam of light is explained on those methods of demonstration which form the glory not so much of Mathematics as of Physics and are graced with the flowers of both. But its axioms being laid down at great length, I shall abridge them to a conclusive brevity, arranging them on the method both of their natural order and of mathematical demonstration; sometimes by deduction of the effects from the causes, and sometimes arguing the causes from the effects; adding also to my own conclusions some which, though not included in them, may nevertheless be inferred from them. Thus, if the Lord--who is the light of all things--vouchsafe to enlighten me, I will treat of Light; wherefore I will divide the present work into 3 Parts."

Hurm, the light is good, the darkness is bad, the light is knowledge, the dark...lack of? ... Suspect


Fresh03 wrote:
Yeah, SHIELD is officially made of concentrated liquid awesome, man it's been a while since I've gotten all hyped up for a book and it didn't disappoint me at least a little, this one said "Me disappoint you?" then it punched me in the eye and said "Never doubt me Cock Sucker!!!"

Laughing Laughing Laughing

Nice. Laughing

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64 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:35 pm

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Here's my other question... where's this going. It can't ALWAYS be about the secret history of the MU, right? I mean, they'll run out of historical figures. Is that going to be the first arc or so, and then have it jump to modern day Heroic Age SHIELD, and then pepper in the secret history stuff from time to time? I think THAT is what I'd most like to see.

According to Hickman this is a Maxi-Series, so it's not on going, kind of like Secret Warriors, there is an end in mind, it might take 20 issues to get there but there is an end.

Honestly, knowing Hickman I'm on board for whatever he's going to give us, the man is one of the best up and coming writers going, the man made me love the Fantastic Four and I never thought that would happen, in my mind prior to him the best thing to come out of the Fantastic Four was Doctor Doom,, but he's made me a believer since he took over the book, and Secret Warriors is absolutely off the hook, no one has ever written a better Nick Fury and what he's done with the supporting cast has been some of the best writing I've come across.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if Hickman writes it I'm in, no if's, and's, or but's.

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65 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:39 am

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Yeah, his was flat-out great. Yes, very weird and throwing a lot of new people and concepts and ideas out there, but I'm happy to be stymied. It's clear that there's a plan and I'm willing to walk off a cliff if that's a part of it.

Chockfulla awesome.


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66 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:04 am

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Mnemosis wrote:Here's my problem with SHIELD #1... as much as I love the secret history of the MU stuff, I have ZERO interest in Leonid and the Night Machine as of right now. I'll give the book time, believe me, because... wow. But, yeah... the main characters are just too out there for me to care about after one issue.

Hickman seems to do this with new characters in the beginning of his books, at least he did it in Secret Warriors with all the kids. He gives you just enough to keep you intrigued by them, yet holds back a lot of their backgrounds/motivations initially. He kinda lets the characters grow into their own. He could be doing the same with Leonid and Night Machine, or maybe not since it was only 1 issue. At this point I'm intrigued by them and want to know why they're so important, and knowing Hickman it will all payoff. He's a methodical long-term story planner.

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67 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:33 pm

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S.H.I.E.L.D. #1
Writer: Jonathan Hickman
Art: Dustin Weaver
Color Christina Strain

I don’t read solicits. So the entire concept of this book came out of left field for me. I was expecting a book about the beginning of S.H.I.E.L.D. Well it was but I had no idea how big it was going to be. I wasn’t expecting that S.H.I.E.L.D. started back before the United States, much less during Kang the Conqueror’s reign in Egypt. Hickman brought everything to this book that any comic fan could want. The art is as solid as any book out there, which is especially important when depicting so many different settings.

Unexpected cameo’s: Check
Interesting story: Check
Making the reader think: Check
New characters: Check
Discordianism: Check
Clandestine organizations: Check
Beautiful Art: Check
Fleshing out previously unknown info: Check
Pure AWESOMENESS!: CHECK CHECK!

So the primary story in this book is a secret city under Rome in the 1950’s. Things catch you by surprise over and over again pretty much from there. We get to meet the focus of our story, Leonid, and find out that he is much more than he seems. Speculators are going to have a field day with this character. He isn’t entirely human which is evident, but some of the panels remind you of Captain Marvel or even Eternity. This is questionable enough, but then this secret city in Rome is home to “The Undying Ones…The Immortals.”

Leonid basically gets the breakdown of both the beginnings of S.H.I.E.L.D. and another organization of the spear. (I’m going to guess the Spear is HYDRA’s origin.) Readers take an adventure through history with Leonid, in some pretty jaw dropping stories.

Flashing to 2620 BC we watch an individual lead his people into battle against an assault on the planet by the brood. Flanking this individual are that era’s Moon Knight and Apocalypse. This is also where we fist see the Shield emblem. And things just build up from there.

There are appearances by Galactus, Celestials, Tony Stark and Reed Richards’ dads, and other historically important figures. Leonid’s father, Night Machine, shows up and sends him on his path. You can’t help but devour this issue and blaze through the pages. And the ending just leaves you wanting more.

It would be a sin to spoil something this good. I don’t know who may come and find me if I did. I just hope that I gave you enough of a taste to go out and get this book. If you don’t you are truly missing out.

5 out of 5 ways the World does not End

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68 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:44 pm

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Link to my big review:

http://www.comicvine.com/shield-shield/37-204514/user_reviews/?review=7286

I am kind of sorry that I had to cut cock sucker out of it though.

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69 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:19 pm

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Xsoldier, that's your best one yet.

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70 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:38 pm

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Finally at home so I can put the actual review up instead of just a link.

I repeat a few things I said on here but it's about 95% original material.

Click on the spoiler tags to double the scroll length of this page, lol:

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Jonathan Hickman is one of those writers who has garnered so much trust in me that when I see him writing a new book I immediately add it to my pull list, no questions asked. The man made me love the Fantastic Four, something I thought would never happen, he reinvigorated Nick Fury and has turned Secret Warriors into an absolute must read rollercoaster, and now with SHIELD he's exploring the secret history of the Marvel Universe.

So, how did he do in the debut issue?

Well, the title of the review should have given you just a hint of what I thought of SHIELD #1.

I have a habit of getting myself all hyped up for a book and being at least a little disappointed when the actual issue hits the stands.

This book said “Me let you down?” Then it punched me in the eye and exclaimed “Never doubt me again!!!” And I never shall.

I’ll discuss the negatives that I’ve heard about the book first to get them out of the way.

There are two complaints that I’ve heard when I’ve discussed this book with people:

1. Hickman doesn’t make you care about Leonid and Night Machine, the apparent main characters of the book.

If you’re familiar with Hickman’s work on Secret Warriors you know that he lets a little slip at a time, you’re not going to get the outright origin of a new character right away, when you do finally get them it’s frickin incredible. I’m intrigued with both Leonid and Night Machine, both are obviously far more that what their first appearances suggest and I can’t wait to see what the secrets are that Hickman has planned out for them.

2. Hickman’s playing fast and loose with history of the Marvel Universe.

Considering that none of this has ever been explored in the slightest I’m just assuming that the people who say this have little to no imagination or believes that there’s no room for exploration of the past in continuity. In my opinion what you get in this book and the hints at the connections to the modern goings on and the past events of the MU is simply mind blowing.

Now, onto the actual content of the book.

It’s hard to review this book and not spoil something for those that haven’t read it yet, and I say yet because I honestly think everyone needs to read this book and it deserves to be the most discussed book being put out by the big two. There are so many “No, that can’t be… Wait, it is… No way!!!” moments packed into this issue that nearly every page has something on it that is a huge surprise.

The easiest way to describe this book is to say that the agency we know as SHIELD has been around allot longer that we thought. Now, that may sound weird to you, but has it ever been established where and when SHIELD was formed? We know that the modern incarnation is mostly an intelligence agency/strike team, but what is the agency’s true purpose? Well, the answer to those two questions lies within these pages.

Throughout history there have been great men, like DaVinci and Galileo who have worked in secret to protect mankind from its destruction. There are faces familiar and foreign that pop up in the book who have worked to this end, and some of the people you see pop up in panels will surprise the bejeezus out of you. There are things slipped conspicuously into the background that will make your geeky little heart skip a beat.

The potential storylines that are laid out in the scenes that flash back to the history of SHIELD have me so excited for this book’s next issue and the issue after that are so clever and surprising that it’s almost unbearable to not have the future issues in my grubby hands right now.

The main storyline which takes place in 1956 has nearly unlimited potential as well, who are these new characters? Why are certain characters working with SHIELD? What is the deal with the Immortal City? What is the equation that the High Council talks about? What is the final fate of man?

There are a whole lot of questions asked in this issue that I can’t wait to get answers to.

This issue could have had pretty much anyone drawing it and I would have loved it. Fortunately we had Dustin Weaver on penciling duties.

Weaver takes the high concepts of Hickman’s script and brings them to life in absolutely breathtaking form. From 1950’s Rome to ancient Egypt everything just leaps off the page at you and you’ll find yourself staring intently at the back grounds of each page to soak in every glorious detail. Each page is a work of art each and of itself. The whole book is seamless as you bounce through the time stream and back to Rome. Weaver gives each time line a slightly different look that corresponds to an art style used during that time period, it’s a brilliant move and it draws you in further and enhances the experience.

Having looked over the SHIELD sketch book over at Marvel’s website I have to say that I hope Christina Strain, the colorist, gets a ton of credit for taking Weaver’s already great art and take it to a whole new level.

I’ve been a fan of Weaver’s for quite a while, but the level of ambition he shows in this book leads me to believe that by the end of this series it’s going to be a career defining effort.

This issue was essentially a teaser trailer for what’s to come and it was very very busy. The issue hits the accelerator on page two and never lets up for a second and I can’t wait for this book to slow down a little and explore in depth each and every scene that we got, which knowing Hickman is exactly what we’ll get in the coming issues.

This was a brilliant first issue that I can’t recommend enough to everyone. If there is such a thing as a perfect comic S.H.I.E.L.D. #1 is what it looks like. If you didn’t pick this issue up go steal your Grandma’s wheelchair and hock it to get the $3.99 this book costs, it’s that good.

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71 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:40 am

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Bigtymin504 wrote:SHIELD #1

Loved it! The intro setting up some of the history behind the Shield organization was great. I really liked what Hickman did showing the flashbacks with the titans of history like Imhotep, Zhang Heng, Leonardo da Vinci, Galileo, etc. All these guys were like the superheros of their day and saved the world just like Reed Richards or Tony Stark do today. Speaking of which, their dads show up in this and are a couple of badasses...Agent Stark and Agent Richards! Laughing Plus, these new characters Leonid and his father are interesting too. That last page opens up some very interesting possibilities.

And the art by Dustin Weaver was great, his attention to detail is amazing. I can't wait to see what grand scheme Hickman has planned for this, I'm pretty sure he will tie some things in with his other books Secret Warriors and Fantastic Four too so that should be quite the treat.
You summed it up for me Bigtymin. Not many people have talked about it but I thought Dustin Weaver's art was just great here. I think he's going to be great on this series and if coming out bi-monthly keeps the art great then I'm happy with that.

I see some comments about the main characters not being too fleshed out but that doesn't really worry me. I think this series is going to be more about a big story involving a lot of different characters. I'm expecting the character development to be slow with this one. There's going to be a lot of players.

I'm really hoping to see more of these early adventures we've been given a taste of. What's happening to the sun that Da Vinci's involved in, waht the hell is that thing in ancient China and most of all I really want to see how Galileo is going to defeat Galactus!!! This stuff looks fantastic.

Dr. Wade Fucking McNasty wrote:Marvel, pulling a Morrison?


Sheild? Spear? IBut those were mentioned in this issue of SHIELD.... Suspect

And there was some mention of the The Infinity Formula / Zodiac Event which was in one of the Steranko Strange tales issues.

Here's hoping Hickman ties this stuff into Fantastic Four as well. I smell conspiracies! Laughing
You, sir, are going to be in your absolute element with all of Hickman's books then. I mostly think it will be connected more with Secret Warriors than the FF though.

Overall at this stage I would summarise the book by saying it's intriguing.

All of you here seem to have a lot of love for Hickman but have you checked out his indy work? If you haven't I suggest doing so because it's just as good.

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72 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:39 am

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Aussiemandias wrote:... waht the hell is that thing in ancient China...
A Celestial. Although a female one is a new twist.


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73 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:05 am

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This is a pretty fantastic idea.

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74 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:58 pm

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S.H.I.E.L.D. #2 First Look

http://comics.ign.com/articles/108/1083147p1.html





nerd big cock Looks great in black n white too!

Sucks we gotta wait till the first week of June...but I definitely don't mind considering the extra time will keep Weaver's art gorgeous and detailed.

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75 Re: S.H.I.E.L.D. on Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:11 pm

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This art is fucking mind-blowing

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