So...

What do you guys wanna see?

Personally Villain-wise i'd still like to see if Nolan's going to use The Riddler, i'd prefer David Tennant. I know some people are going to suggest Depp. Meh. Depp's overexposed, and he gets everyone of those 'im an ecentric weirdo who dresses all crazy with a fun backstory or whatever' roles.(Like Willy Wonka, Edward Scissorhands,Sweeney Todd, etc.). I'd also like to see The Ventriloquist, or Bane.

Killer Croc played by Ben Affleck.

I really really want to see The Riddler, The Penguin, Catwoman, and Black Mask. I'd also like Dick Grayson to be introduced (he doesn't have to actually be Robin).

Tim Drake played by Clifford Bañagale.

I would absolutely LOVE it if they introduced Tim Drake (since he's my second favorite DC character), but since he's not the original Robin I know it'll most likely never happen.

Jason Todd... and then he dies.

well since Nolan has tried very hard to keep his Batman movies in the realm of reality, I would guess that you may see some of these potential baddies: The Penguin (he is just a mob boss), the Riddler,and a few others. I would like to see the Penguin not as a main bad guy but rising up in the void of the mob bosses. I dont think they could pull of Bane correctly in a real world sense, unless hes just a muscle, or giving a bad roid rage.... they could try a clay face, just a man who is a master of disguises and is a serial killer. As much as I would like to see the Joker return, with maybe Harley Quinn, but i doubt that will happen. Killer croc could make an appearance with a disfigurement similar to the Elephant man. Mr. Zsaz was in the first movie so he could make an appearance in the third movie.

so with that being said, if Nolan does not take a graphic novel as a basis for his Batman movie and starts from scratch here is my idea....
When we left Batman he was a criminal, in his absence the Penguin has stepped into town running thing with dirty money (police etc). Mean while the police look for Bats, but Bruce Wayne has stepped out of the Batman persona to let things die down for a bit. In this abscensce a string of serial murderers have sprung up around town, one being Mr. Zsaz and the other being could be a killer croc (employed by the penguin, but you could replace croc with bane). So you could have a two front offensive against batman. You would have the penguin trying to take over corporate Gotham (hey they are a city needing a person with money to save them) and you have Zsaz killing "innocents". This forces Bats out of hiding and to put Zsaz back in prison, while having to deal with the dirty cash flow of the penguin.

But then again in light of the recent video game, just lets explore Arkham a bit more...

I think Riddler and Catwoman make perfect sense for a new flick.

I'd like to see Tom Hardy (Bronson) play the Riddler more than Depp. I agree with the over-exposed thing about Depp. Since Hardy has been cast in Inception I'm hoping he at least gets a shout, plus with Nolan liking to cast Brits. Hardy's Riddler would be awesome.

Not so sure about Catwoman. I could see it, bringing a gray to Batman's black and white. Let alone, Spider-Man 4 supposedly has Black Cat coming...IDK.



^ This one seems a bit too Matrix-y.



Batwoman, Kate Kane, in The Dark Knightess.

David Tennant as the Riddler.........*joygasm*


I want to see Catwoman in the movies, but it'll never happen thanks to Halle Berry.

^ I tried to leave out the fake posters that had actors pasted on them. Like Tennant and Depp.

Also, I wouldn't completely give up on Catwoman. That movie bombed so bad that her license is probably a lot cheaper.

Marion Cotillard...I could see it. She's very catty looking, and she's a good actress. Could easily work.

The guy who plays sheldon on Big Bang Theory as the riddler lol



But seriously, I saw someone I thought would be perfect, and have forgotten, now. Poop.

Buscemi as Riddler FTW.

Here's my rough plot. I've always thought this was a good idea and stick with that.

Title possibilities: The Caped Crusader (Because his resolve has now become such.), The Shadow of the Bat (Maybe subtitle? But it would accent the story I'm wanting more.), or Dark Knight Detective (Which'd go with The Riddler, but isn't necessarily the main aspect.).

And here we go...

Wayne Enterprises is on the rise, especially Wayne Tech. And when a company goes from famous to more famous, everybody wants a piece. Especially black markets. And who is the man to bring that to town? The Penguin, Oswald Cobblepot.
We have, at some point, Lucius showing Wayne the new projects within Wayne Tech, taking him to each consecutive floor.
- A man sitting at a desk, drinking green tea from a bottle, a large top hat on the rack behind him, reading Through the Looking Glass with wide-eyes. He has many machines taken apart, showing the components of CAT scan, lie-detector test (with picture of Wonder Woman behind it? ), and other's dealing with understanding the human mind. He's trying to create a machine that can help against interogation in a precise and humane way. *Luscious rolls his eyes at the silliness.*

- Next floor. There is a flame-retardent suit with a scanner helment, a flamethrower, and a jetpack that is still a work in progress. It is to help firemen do control burns against forest fires and maybe buildings that are close together.

- Next floor. They are working on a malleable, synthetic flesh that'd adhere to the bodies of injured, scarred/burned people to help them survive their condition and make them look normal. A joke is made about the previous floor to the progression to this one.

- The greenhouse. A Professor Woodrue introduces himself to Wayne, saying that it is finally a pleasure to meet the man who has helped with his funding. A mousy, redhaired woman is in the back analyzing a plant with mannerisms of TLC and a look of borderline intimacy. She, being rudely shy, doesn't even look up with just giving barely a corner-of-mouth smile and a finger-wave to Mr. Wayne when Woodrue introduces her for her.

- The last floor, sub-basement, is a cyrogenics lab. Lucius asks Wayne to put on a parka before entering because of the temperatures. The scientist is on a stool at a table next to a the only human-sized tube out of the 8 that has a person in it. The silhouette looks feminine. Lucius describes the plans of Prof. Victor Fries, and says the leaps and bounds in his theories are astounding. Explaining that, if they're accurate, they may be onto stopping many terminal illnesses. Ferris Boyle then shows up, having complete control of the cryogenics branch of Wayne Tech, amongst others, and says that they'll be pulling funding on Fries and shutting him down for wasting funding. Saying that he hasn't even tried to expand on his theories in general, keeping papers and funds to himself.

^ Now, if this is the last movie, those little nods could easily mean a to-be-continued for Nolan's films, but in the sense that they don't need sequels, you know? It just shows the progression of Batman from back-alley scumbags to metas and those using meta-tech. It'd be sweet.

Also, Catwoman could come into play, being that she is a master thief. And The Riddler? Hired by Cobblepot because he proclaims he can take down the Knight by sheer intellect alone. And, like in the books, Cobblepot shares a kindred spirit when it comes to tastes...art and lifestyle, etc. Adding The Riddler brings about the detective aspect of Batman that hasn't been totally seen yet. We've seen him get help from Gordon, Alfred and his computers, but what about his own power of deduction?

Batman: The Shadow of the Bat would work, seeing as how that title dealt more with the minds of the mad, Batman's villains. Let alone, Shadow of the Bat could imply his status as Wayne with his ever-growing enterprise that would, of course, start more trouble because he's created a beacon for greed.

I would like to see Harley Quinn come back to avenge The Joker's death....I am guessing that they won't bring the Joker back in next one.

^ Well, wouldn't he be in Arkham? She's a psychiatrist that is turned by him during the sessions. Forgot to add this to my list, as I'm sure I've forgotten other things, I'd love for the ending of the 3rd movie to have dimly lit room, Harleen Quinzel has her back to the camera with a pen and paper and we can vaguely see a man in a straight jacket laying on the couch talking with a voice-actor who can really capture Ledger's voice and tone. The camera lifts, and we see what Joker's psychiatrist, Harleen, is writing. She's doodled a Harlequin onto the middle of her pad and "ha-has" all around it. We notice that the pen is blotched with what looks like blood, and then we see her face and it is obvious to us that she had just recently cut her cheeks to make a permanent smile on her face. Credits with echoing laughs.

bluemaxx you got some cool ideas in their. If I may critique one thing, if you dont mind, but the only bad part is having Bruce Wayne being the catalyst to all of his up and coming villains, it reminds me to much of the seen when Bruce (Kilmer) fired Edward Nigma (Jim Carrey) in the Batman and Robin movie..... but besides that you seem to have some good ideas, because they could fit into the realm of Nolan, which is realistic.

I for one really enjoy what Nolan has done so far, and that is take a realistic super hero and put him in a realistic world....

Also, Jason Todd has been introduced. He's the little kid in Batman Begins that's seen a couple times. SHUT UP, I WANT TO BELIEVE THAT!

Elizabeth Banks as Harley Quinn!