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Dark Avengers #11

Molecule Man is one powerful mofo!
Wow, the things he was able to do in this issue were damn impressive...you don't see a lot of that in modern comics. His chat with Norman was really interesting, not to mention his choice of friends he created for himself. And I find it kinda funny how, despite all his power, MM still fears that Reed Richards will come and somehow imprison him someday. Sort of shows the kind of reputation Reed has with these cosmically powerful beings, and deservedly so.

I also really liked MM's interaction with Sentry, he seemed impressed and perplexed with the true nature of Sentry. I can't wait till we find out! Oh and I was glad to see Victoria Hand get a little spotlight here...plus we found out that she's a lesbian with a hot ex-girlfriend.

I LOVE the mind fuck he gave the Dark Avengers. Molecule Man rocks!

i haven't read it yet but i have to say it is awesome to see greg horn on the interiers of a book and not just the cover

As I suspected the Molecule Man created all the other villains.

Bigtymin504 wrote:Dark Avengers #11
Molecule Man is one powerful mofo!
Wow, the things he was able to do in this issue were damn impressive...you don't see a lot of that in modern comics. His chat with Norman was really interesting, not to mention his choice of friends he created for himself. And I find it kinda funny how, despite all his power, MM still fears that Reed Richards will come and somehow imprison him someday. Sort of shows the kind of reputation Reed has with these cosmically powerful beings, and deservedly so.

I also really liked MM's interaction with Sentry, he seemed impressed and perplexed with the true nature of Sentry. I can't wait till we find out! Oh and I was glad to see Victoria Hand get a little spotlight here...plus we found out that she's a lesbian with a hot ex-girlfriend.

I've always liked the concept of Molecule Man's powers. I've often thought he could easily be the most powerful villain in the MU however that is offset by his mental problems which are also seen in this issue. And it makes sense that someone so powerful may not be able to cope with it. I'm not sure that Reese's fear of Reed Richards is so much to do with Reed's reputation - I think it's more to do with Reese's innate fear of failure and the fact that he knows he's weak mentally and has been defeated many times before. I think he's an interesting character - incredibly powerful yet he's a very weak man.

Man, Victoria Hand's girlfriend did not give her a chance at all when she screwed up. Way to go standing by your girl when she makes a mistake, bitch!

Aussiemandias wrote:As I suspected the Molecule Man created all the other villains.

Bigtymin504 wrote:Dark Avengers #11
Molecule Man is one powerful mofo!
Wow, the things he was able to do in this issue were damn impressive...you don't see a lot of that in modern comics. His chat with Norman was really interesting, not to mention his choice of friends he created for himself. And I find it kinda funny how, despite all his power, MM still fears that Reed Richards will come and somehow imprison him someday. Sort of shows the kind of reputation Reed has with these cosmically powerful beings, and deservedly so.

I also really liked MM's interaction with Sentry, he seemed impressed and perplexed with the true nature of Sentry. I can't wait till we find out! Oh and I was glad to see Victoria Hand get a little spotlight here...plus we found out that she's a lesbian with a hot ex-girlfriend.

I've always liked the concept of Molecule Man's powers. I've often thought he could easily be the most powerful villain in the MU however that is offset by his mental problems which are also seen in this issue. And it makes sense that someone so powerful may not be able to cope with it. I'm not sure that Reese's fear of Reed Richards is so much to do with Reed's reputation - I think it's more to do with Reese's innate fear of failure and the fact that he knows he's weak mentally and has been defeated many times before. I think he's an interesting character - incredibly powerful yet he's a very weak man.

Man, Victoria Hand's girlfriend did not give her a chance at all when she screwed up. Way to go standing by your girl when she makes a mistake, bitch!

I'm curious, what form of energy does he utilize to exer control over other things? It seems like if this is ever figured out, this could lead to his downfall. And in short, I liked this issue. "That is angry water".

Dark Avengers #11

This book was awesome. D.A.'s been revered for so long and while I've enjoyed the ride, I couldn't help but feel like something was missing. These last two issues have been a great pickup over some senseless tie-in's and strange sorcery. Agreed that Ms. Hand's love life and Molecule Man's mental failures all made this issue worthwhile. The art was creepy, as the environments of Dinosaur made even the New Avengers scared. All these current Dark Reign books are doing an excellent job at seeding us on Norman's downfall. My only bug would be Ms. Hand's allegiance as it's not thoroughly reasoned as to why she would believe she was wronged. That's obvious ('cause Norm's a friggin' psycho), but WHY? We need to know why without simplistic shots of Norm takin' on the world. Hopefully the next issue (if it's indeed the last) will be the fallout of this whole scenario.

4/5 Goblin pumpkins - A Very Good Book

I have to say reading this issue just made me realize how awesome bendis is. especially seeing fraction write this book for a little bit. the art was amazing from both deodoto and horn. this was just pure gold

Aussiemandias wrote:I'm not sure that Reese's fear of Reed Richards is so much to do with Reed's reputation - I think it's more to do with Reese's innate fear of failure and the fact that he knows he's weak mentally and has been defeated many times before.

Yeah I don't disagree with that, but I also think the fact that he immediately thinks of Reed as the guy to take him down kinda speaks to how respected Reed is by these cosmically all-powerful types.

Dr. Wade Fucking McNasty wrote:"That is angry water".

That line was awesome!

Dr. Wade Fucking McNasty wrote:
I'm curious, what form of energy does he utilize to exer control over other things? It seems like if this is ever figured out, this could lead to his downfall. And in short, I liked this issue. "That is angry water".

Interesting way of looking at it. I guess I always looked at it that he controlled the molecules themselves so I never really saw that he used some sort of energy to do that but, when you think about it, it must be some sort of psychic energy he's using.

I liked this issue. It wasn't my favorite issue of this book, but it was still really good. Deodato's art is just beyond fantastic.

The angry water thing was definitely my favorite part.

Aussiemandias wrote:
Man, Victoria Hand's girlfriend did not give her a chance at all when she screwed up. Way to go standing by your girl when she makes a mistake, bitch!

QFT.

Best Avengers book on the market today.

shiky800 wrote:i haven't read it yet but i have to say it is awesome to see greg horn on the interiers of a book and not just the cover

Agree. Horn's interiers were great

Dark Avengers 11, is defenately a progressive step forward. The character development of Hand was nice, so was the fact that Bendis wrote MM as powerful as he should be. I loved the Angry water comment, but my favorite part was when he was thinking about what to do with Areas and had kind of a Steve Carrel moment, just moving along to the next thing leaving that business unfinished.
"boom your roasted" could have been a good title for the issue .

i have to say issue 11 was great the story was great and the art was even better

I like the thought that MM's tinkering may be what leads to Norman's final step over the edge, he's been hanging on for a while now, but the crazy train seems to be leaving the station and Norman's got himself a first class ticket.

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Dark Avengers Annual #1

Wow. So everybody's talking about the last page. Well, not this site. I guess it's more because a lot of you haven't got your books yet, or just did. I wanted to read this annual so badly due to the art of Chris Bachalo. His talent alone is what made me enjoy the Sinister Spider-Man mini (not that Brian Reed wasn't nifty...). The panels of the NY landscape are full of enclosure, of mystery, of darkness, of a foreign realm. This all plays well with Bendis' new characterization of Noh-Varr. The explanation for his exit is fulfilled, yet still leaving enough of that Kree-aura of wonder that carries on this Marvel Boy legacy.

So, sure, we get a much different Marvel Boy than the one who appeared in Wolverine's List issue just a few weeks ago, and a drastically different take on Morrison's original. We get maybe's Marvel's biggest f*** up of the year: exposing the end result to the #1 run of a certain character. People are going to talk; they're going to expose; so if you're a Bendis/Dark Avengers fan looking for more on the saga that is Noh-Varr and love the abstract art of Bachalo as much as I do, buy it anyway...just beware of that $5 price tag.

3/5 Bags&Boards - Would've been great without the last spoiler page and a cheaper deal

I really don't get how they can fuck something up SO colossally. I mean, it's not like they came out the same week. It's not like they're even a week apart. The book this one SHOULD have followed is scheduled for January 13th!!!!

Anyhow, Bachalo's art is REALLY growing on me. I feel he's changed his style a BIT from the Generation X days where I found his art very hard to sort through, but I think it's more about my broadening taste.

The interplay between Sentry and Marvel Boy was REALLY nifty, I thought. I love Sentry as Norman's lapdog, almost unquestioning in following Osborn whereas he's so unsure of everything else, and here's Norman, the one dude he SHOULDN'T trust. I would REALLY love for an eventual reveal that Sentry was playing Osborn. When you finally have Cap or Tony or someone come back, and they Sentry sides with them, and Osborn says "I thought you were on my side Bob. I thought we were a team. I thought you were a hero" and Sentry says "I may not always know what's what, but I'm not crazy enough to think you're the hero here."

Mnemosis wrote:I really don't get how they can fuck something up SO colossally. I mean, it's not like they came out the same week. It's not like they're even a week apart. The book this one SHOULD have followed is scheduled for January 13th!!!!

Anyhow, Bachalo's art is REALLY growing on me. I feel he's changed his style a BIT from the Generation X days where I found his art very hard to sort through, but I think it's more about my broadening taste.

The interplay between Sentry and Marvel Boy was REALLY nifty, I thought. I love Sentry as Norman's lapdog, almost unquestioning in following Osborn whereas he's so unsure of everything else, and here's Norman, the one dude he SHOULDN'T trust. I would REALLY love for an eventual reveal that Sentry was playing Osborn. When you finally have Cap or Tony or someone come back, and they Sentry sides with them, and Osborn says "I thought you were on my side Bob. I thought we were a team. I thought you were a hero" and Sentry says "I may not always know what's what, but I'm not crazy enough to think you're the hero here."

No question. On all accounts.

So what's the big epic blunder?

Mnemosis wrote:I really don't get how they can fuck something up SO colossally. I mean, it's not like they came out the same week. It's not like they're even a week apart. The book this one SHOULD have followed is scheduled for January 13th!!!!

At this point I'm not sure if they messed up or they did this on purpose. Since its an Annual its not like they needed to hit an ongoing schedule, they could have waited to release it if they wanted, but maybe they wanted it to come out now.

Either way, definitely wasn't expecting that!! Makes me happy!

Anyhow, Bachalo's art is REALLY growing on me. I feel he's changed his style a BIT from the Generation X days where I found his art very hard to sort through, but I think it's more about my broadening taste.

The interplay between Sentry and Marvel Boy was REALLY nifty, I thought. I love Sentry as Norman's lapdog, almost unquestioning in following Osborn whereas he's so unsure of everything else, and here's Norman, the one dude he SHOULDN'T trust. I would REALLY love for an eventual reveal that Sentry was playing Osborn. When you finally have Cap or Tony or someone come back, and they Sentry sides with them, and Osborn says "I thought you were on my side Bob. I thought we were a team. I thought you were a hero" and Sentry says "I may not always know what's what, but I'm not crazy enough to think you're the hero here."

Totally agree here. The relationship between Sentry and Norman is really interesting, I love how Bendis set it up from the get go in Dark Avengers. And Noh-Varr is really developing nicely as a big time player. Can't wait to see his role in Siege and beyond. Plus, I'm diggin the new costume...although I think he should have his hair out like Mar-Vell did...especially cuz its distinctly white. lol

LordD3r3k wrote:So what's the big epic blunder?

Well if you're not gonna check it out, I'll spoil it. The last page has

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looking at Noh-Varr from afar with binoculars, talking about recruiting him.

Bigtymin504 wrote:Well if you're not gonna check it out, I'll spoil it. The last page has

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looking at Noh-Varr from afar with binoculars, talking about recruiting him.

Gotcha, thanks.