Spidey_82 wrote:No, they don't. Marvel only started being involved directly in its movies with Iron Man. Their cartoon shows from the last couple of years are more "company work" but still done mostly by a studio. Craig Kyle came to comics from his Marvel animated work, which continues to this day.Batman25JM wrote:Spidey_82 wrote:It's hard to judge the movies and TV shows as both companies are mostly involved just by putting their logo on the product. This is the case with Marvel movies until Iron Man and DC... always. At least the connection between DC and WB gained some of their shows collaborations with comic book writers, which resulted in some of their best episodes.
Anyway, I believe most of us here judges the companies by their comic books and nothing else.
I judge them on movies and shows as well as comics. I do this because the companies have to okay the shows, and they have to oversee them. Also, many comic writers write for the shows. Craig Kyle and Christopher Yost (who currently write X-Force) for example, are the ones behind all the Marvel Animated movies as well as Wolverine and the X-Men. And Christopher Yost is the head of Iron Man: Armored Adventures.
I know that the companies have a hand in the movies. Like Iron Man for example, many of the comic writers worked on it.
With Warner owning DC, the latter has no say about movies based on its characters and the evidence is the movies they've done (or not) in the last 20 years, with the current Batman franchise being the exception. Not that DC was involved in the four decades Warner owns it. The cartoons, while also not being directly connected to DC, had the privilege in last decade and a half to get the involvement of DC's writers.
An evidence to the distinction between the comics aspect and TV/films is the Blade TV show from a few years ago, a show Geoff Johns was a writer on while being an exclusive writer for DC comics.
I never said that Marvel was directly involved. They might not be directly involved, but they aren't completely separate. They have to okay certain things. Weren't they one of the ones who pushed Venom to be in Spidey 3?
I know that Craig Kyle came to comics from his Marvel animation work, but he's still a comic writer now.
I know that DC does have at least a little say in animation. Bruce Timm and co. were talking about getting okays for certain characters/stories in their commentaries.
Even if the companies don't have much involvement in the movies/shows I don't care. They are still DC and Marvel properties and I will use them in my breakdown of what I like about the companies if I so choose.
Joshua wrote:Since this is in the 'Comics in General' forum I thought it was pretty clear that the only real quantifying factor in determining this is their respective comic book universes. Bringing in things like movies and cartoons, where the comic companies have little to no say (until very recently for Marvel), is completely irrelevant. By that logic we should also include theme park rides (which DC handily wins).
It isn't irrelevant. I broke down my liking of the two companies how I chose to do it.
There was no specification that I couldn't include movies and shows. And it doesn't even matter that I included them. I also talked about the comics and characters.
I like to include all aspects that I enjoy about the characters from each company.