Mnemosis wrote:
I honestly think, had I gone to see it, I'd have been less shocked had he turned into and been murdered by a Predator.
Or eaten by a T-Rex.
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Mnemosis wrote:
I honestly think, had I gone to see it, I'd have been less shocked had he turned into and been murdered by a Predator.
Thundermatts wrote:What the fuck? How far you go with it? lol, if people seriously feel offended by a movie showing an airplane (and I didn't even expect them toshot it hit, just to show it coming) they need to grow up. I just watched the first part of The Pacific last night. A mini series based on WWII (as are many films and shows before it) and it held nothing back. People being shot and killed, blown up, and losing body parts. I've yet to hear one person complain of "taking it to far" But having a movie allude to (not even show apparently) the fact that 9-11 happened is too much? This world makes me laugh and cry at the same time. History is made in film fictional and otherwise these days. Deal with it.
Mnemosis wrote:I didn't see the film, nor did I intend to, but I just read a bit about it. MAJOR SPOILERS
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Apparently, after a long and emotional story of boy gets dared to date girl, boy falls for girl, girl finds out why boy dated girl in the first place (GOD I"M SICK OF THIS STORY) and boy and girl are both estranged from their families but manage to get back together... after all the standard tedium that is any chick flick, the boy (Pattinson) and his father (Pierce Brosnan) are on the verge of reconciling as the boy looks out the window of his father's office... in the World Trade Center, on the morning of September 11th, 2001.
Now, that COULD be a really powerful way to have ended a really great movie. Honestly though? I'm not thinking this movie lives up to that moment, and personally, it kind of sickens me. Anyone else?
ChrisToPhenom wrote:Ha! Just this second, I was going to post this thread and discuss the ending and (again) just when I think no one would care-I'm wrong!
Yeah, I Googled the ending and even Spill.Com was pissed about it...they mostly gave a "F-ck You!" than "Some Ol' Bullshit!"
http://www.spill.com/Movie-Reviews/MovieReview.aspx?Name=Remember%20Me&VideoId=491428
Hell Yeah it would have.Mnemosis wrote:
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My understanding is, you see him in the window, and then, like, it cuts to his little sister's school, and she's writing the date on the board, and I'm guessing you see a shot of the clock or something. So, no, they don't go so far as to show the plane. That would've gotten theaters burnt down, I'm guessing
Mnemosis wrote:I refuse to believe this movie is good enough to warrant that ending. Period.
comicgeekelly wrote:I'm not offended, but I'll try to make an arguement for those that would be. You went into The Pacific expecting a war TV show. Most people going to Remember Me don't expect anything 9/11 related. Also WWII was decades ago, not many people that are watching The Pacific lived through WWII. Everyone who will see Remember Me lived through 9/11 and probably remembers it well and might even know someone who was killed in the attack.
Joshua wrote:But without seeing the movie first you're just shooting from the hip. Maybe it is crass and exploitative but maybe it works in the context of the movie. Apparently there's a scene in the movie Precious where the titular character steals a bucket of fried chicken. Taken out of context that could be interpreted as racist commentary, but judging by the people making the movie and the accolades its received I'm going to assume it's not a KKK propaganda film. It seems a bit premature to play the offended card without even seeing the movie.
LordD3r3k wrote:comicgeekelly wrote:I'm not offended, but I'll try to make an arguement for those that would be. You went into The Pacific expecting a war TV show. Most people going to Remember Me don't expect anything 9/11 related. Also WWII was decades ago, not many people that are watching The Pacific lived through WWII. Everyone who will see Remember Me lived through 9/11 and probably remembers it well and might even know someone who was killed in the attack.
That's a good point. I'm not necessarily offended either, but there's a difference between those war movies and this. Like you said, the key difference is that war movies are actual accounts of the war. This really has nothing to do with 9/11 other than the ending. They're basically using 9/11 as a plot device to kill their main character, and that is what's kind of offensive.
Thundermatts wrote:Newsflash: People died in 9-11. A movie doesn't have to be completely ablut 9-11 if it chooses to reference it, or feature it in some way. The movie is about people, and one of them happens to die in the 9-11 attacks. He was a normal guy (well, you know, a fake normal guy) who lost his life in the biggest modern American tragedy, as many (real) people did. The only people who could possibly be offended, are the people that are starting to become the majority, who feel if they aren't offended by something, they aren't living their lives right.
Yeah I hear you, you're just playing devil's advocate. I don't find it offensive either but maybe its just one of those deals where its "too soon". I could see why some people might think its slightly offensive.LordD3r3k wrote:Thundermatts wrote:Newsflash: People died in 9-11. A movie doesn't have to be completely ablut 9-11 if it chooses to reference it, or feature it in some way. The movie is about people, and one of them happens to die in the 9-11 attacks. He was a normal guy (well, you know, a fake normal guy) who lost his life in the biggest modern American tragedy, as many (real) people did. The only people who could possibly be offended, are the people that are starting to become the majority, who feel if they aren't offended by something, they aren't living their lives right.
Look, I'm not saying *I* care, but if someone complained about this particular plot point, I wouldn't necessarily disagree with them.
The sad thing is, this'll probably get more comments than the actual story itself.
Joshua wrote:Maybe I'm just insensitive, but I don't see how putting something that actually happened is offensive, unless it's done in a blatantly exploitive manner.
FroZen wrote:
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I just had to use one of these spolier boxes in this thread.
And again, without actually seeing it in the context of the movie I don't think we can judge it one way or the other. As I already said, it could totally be a vulgar and insulting exploitation, but it's a bit naive and ignorant to label it as such without actually watching the movie.Debaser77 wrote:There's nothing wrong with referencing 9/11, but shoehorning it at the end of a stupid tearjerker romance movie is pretty damn low. I'm not offended as much as I'm just insulted that the screenwriter wrote such a manipulative ending.
Well , seeing as no one here wants to see it, why not be a trooper and take one for the team? Go see it and let us know.Joshua wrote:And again, without actually seeing it in the context of the movie I don't think we can judge it one way or the other. As I already said, it could totally be a vulgar and insulting exploitation, but it's a bit naive and ignorant to label it as such without actually watching the movie.Debaser77 wrote:There's nothing wrong with referencing 9/11, but shoehorning it at the end of a stupid tearjerker romance movie is pretty damn low. I'm not offended as much as I'm just insulted that the screenwriter wrote such a manipulative ending.
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