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Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:27 am
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227 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:52 pm
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*high-fives Ska for reading AL:VH*
228 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:36 pm
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rwe1138 wrote:*high-fives Ska for reading AL:VH*
*hi five*
IT'S SO FUCKING GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I sing its praises everywhere. lol229 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:47 pm
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Ska wrote:rwe1138 wrote:*high-fives Ska for reading AL:VH*
*hi five*
IT'S SO FUCKING GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've been wanting to read it for a while now so i put on hold at my local library i also put on hold Night of the living trekkies a book Jaydee suggested.
230 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:50 pm
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The thing that blew me away was how much SGS took directly out of Lincoln's life. Nearly every non-vampiric character in it was a real person, and a few of the vampires were real too.Ska wrote:rwe1138 wrote:*high-fives Ska for reading AL:VH*
*hi five*
IT'S SO FUCKING GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
231 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:20 pm
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I really want to read that and "P&P and Zombies", but I've been finding it increasingly hard to read books without pictures since I've started reading comics. (So sad.) And I looked at the "P&P and Zombies" graphic novel, but it didn't really appeal to me.rwe1138 wrote:The thing that blew me away was how much SGS took directly out of Lincoln's life. Nearly every non-vampiric character in it was a real person, and a few of the vampires were real too.Ska wrote:rwe1138 wrote:*high-fives Ska for reading AL:VH*
*hi five*
IT'S SO FUCKING GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I dunno. I guess I just really need a novel to get excited about.
232 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:51 am
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Demonweasel wrote:Ska wrote:Demonweasel wrote:
This is why it's important to keep cardboard with you at all times.
We have that sign hanging up in the princess pit, aka the cosplay room upstairs. lol
Ah yes. Fond memories of up there.
Wow, how did I just now notice this? Baby, you are wonderful and clever and I love you.
Pride and Prejudice and Zombies is a good book, but it's better if you're familiar with the Jane Austen books, it makes the parody much richer.
I know what you mean though...with all the reading that I have to do for school, when I have a spare second to read something I actually want to, I hardly have the strength to read anything else.233 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:48 am
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Another great episode ladies! Love The Walking Dead talk. I even went over to the main site and watched the NYCC panel coverage. I just can't get enough of this great show!
234 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:09 am
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Awesoooome!
235 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:32 am
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pumkinheadfan wrote:Another great episode ladies! Love The Walking Dead talk. I even went over to the main site and watched the NYCC panel coverage. I just can't get enough of this great show!
236 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:08 pm
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Ok, I want your thoughts. Here is the latest email from Gunnell about our situation.
Thoughts, comments?
- Spoiler:
"Lisa,
I'm not trying to make myself the martyr, I just felt honestly hurt by the approach you took with me. From stealing my e-mail list and e-mailing them about your piece to threatening legal action at the drop of a hat. I never said you weren't justified in being angry, but I felt that you were essentially saying that I was purposefully disrespecting you and that just wasn't the case. I did indeed forget to send the tracking number to you,(I'm actually in a bus right now and don't have it available to give you now) but your commission was sent out Saturday(though it missed the noon deadline for shipping so that means it should probably be there around wednesday or thursday). The fact that you keep threatening legal counsel is exactly why I feel that you're accusing me of trying to steal from you. Its pretty absurd really. I don't want to keep these commissions...The reason that I do them is because sometimes I need extra money and also because I know fans like them. I can't tell you the number of times I've been told by other pro artists that I put too much work into the commissions for the price I charge, but for me its more important that the person receiving the commission feels they got more than their money's worth. Prior to you I've never had a dissatisfied customer, and I've probably done at least 50 commissions. Whether you believe it or not, I do care about each and every one of the people that supports my work. Thats why your accusatory approach is so hurtful to me, because I really want you be happy with the work. I know thats impossible now because you'll probably just be angry every time you look at this commission...Anyway, I'm rambling now. You don't have to worry about me stealing or keeping your commission. I can assure you, I'm not the kind of person that would do that. If by some insane chance your commission doesn't arrive(never happened as long as I've been doing them), I would draw you another one or give you a refund if you wanted. Honestly, the worst part about this whole thing to me is that you seem to have me pegged as this horrible person because I didn't send your commission out when I originally said I would. I didn't say I would send it out knowing that I wouldn't be able to. I honestly can't remember the reason why I didn't send it out, but I can assure you it was either a situation of not having the available funds in my bank account, or having to go on a business trip or something. Are you the only person that has made a promise and then realized you couldn't keep it? As I said in my "blog", I may be slow, but I would never purposefully keep someone's commission. The reason I wrote that blog is because honestly you made me feel pretty crappy with the way you approached this whole situation. I don't have a ton of contact with the outside world as most of my time is spent in my room drawing, so for me, I needed to talk about how I was feeling. If your other contact with me recently is any indication of your empathetic aptitude, I think its pretty obvious that there was no point in voicing these feelings personally to you. I honestly just want you to understand that I never meant to anger you or disrespect you in any way. I do have a lot of things always going on in my life and, right or wrong, many of them take precedence over mailing commissions out. Please refrain from contacting me again if its going to be in an angry, argumentative, or threatening manner. I've never treated you badly(other than taking a long time to send you your commission), and I would like it if you extend me the same courtesy. Again, sorry for the delay, but your commission and sketchbook should be there Thursday at the latest. Thanks."
Thoughts, comments?
237 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:32 pm
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Spazzy wrote:Ok, I want your thoughts. Here is the latest email from Gunnell about our situation.So was I the bad guy? I mean.. the piece was ready since March and he couldnt mail it out for whatever unknown reason.
- Spoiler:
"Lisa,
I'm not trying to make myself the martyr, I just felt honestly hurt by the approach you took with me. From stealing my e-mail list and e-mailing them about your piece to threatening legal action at the drop of a hat. I never said you weren't justified in being angry, but I felt that you were essentially saying that I was purposefully disrespecting you and that just wasn't the case. I did indeed forget to send the tracking number to you,(I'm actually in a bus right now and don't have it available to give you now) but your commission was sent out Saturday(though it missed the noon deadline for shipping so that means it should probably be there around wednesday or thursday). The fact that you keep threatening legal counsel is exactly why I feel that you're accusing me of trying to steal from you. Its pretty absurd really. I don't want to keep these commissions...The reason that I do them is because sometimes I need extra money and also because I know fans like them. I can't tell you the number of times I've been told by other pro artists that I put too much work into the commissions for the price I charge, but for me its more important that the person receiving the commission feels they got more than their money's worth. Prior to you I've never had a dissatisfied customer, and I've probably done at least 50 commissions. Whether you believe it or not, I do care about each and every one of the people that supports my work. Thats why your accusatory approach is so hurtful to me, because I really want you be happy with the work. I know thats impossible now because you'll probably just be angry every time you look at this commission...Anyway, I'm rambling now. You don't have to worry about me stealing or keeping your commission. I can assure you, I'm not the kind of person that would do that. If by some insane chance your commission doesn't arrive(never happened as long as I've been doing them), I would draw you another one or give you a refund if you wanted. Honestly, the worst part about this whole thing to me is that you seem to have me pegged as this horrible person because I didn't send your commission out when I originally said I would. I didn't say I would send it out knowing that I wouldn't be able to. I honestly can't remember the reason why I didn't send it out, but I can assure you it was either a situation of not having the available funds in my bank account, or having to go on a business trip or something. Are you the only person that has made a promise and then realized you couldn't keep it? As I said in my "blog", I may be slow, but I would never purposefully keep someone's commission. The reason I wrote that blog is because honestly you made me feel pretty crappy with the way you approached this whole situation. I don't have a ton of contact with the outside world as most of my time is spent in my room drawing, so for me, I needed to talk about how I was feeling. If your other contact with me recently is any indication of your empathetic aptitude, I think its pretty obvious that there was no point in voicing these feelings personally to you. I honestly just want you to understand that I never meant to anger you or disrespect you in any way. I do have a lot of things always going on in my life and, right or wrong, many of them take precedence over mailing commissions out. Please refrain from contacting me again if its going to be in an angry, argumentative, or threatening manner. I've never treated you badly(other than taking a long time to send you your commission), and I would like it if you extend me the same courtesy. Again, sorry for the delay, but your commission and sketchbook should be there Thursday at the latest. Thanks."
Thoughts, comments?
WOW, what a way to turn the blame on you and make you feel small just for trying to get something you rightfully own. Look on the bright side you'll have your commission by the end of the week!
238 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:45 pm
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Spazzy wrote:Ok, I want your thoughts. Here is the latest email from Gunnell about our situation.So was I the bad guy? I mean.. the piece was ready since March and he couldnt mail it out for whatever unknown reason.
- Spoiler:
"Lisa,
I'm not trying to make myself the martyr, I just felt honestly hurt by the approach you took with me. From stealing my e-mail list and e-mailing them about your piece to threatening legal action at the drop of a hat. I never said you weren't justified in being angry, but I felt that you were essentially saying that I was purposefully disrespecting you and that just wasn't the case. I did indeed forget to send the tracking number to you,(I'm actually in a bus right now and don't have it available to give you now) but your commission was sent out Saturday(though it missed the noon deadline for shipping so that means it should probably be there around wednesday or thursday). The fact that you keep threatening legal counsel is exactly why I feel that you're accusing me of trying to steal from you. Its pretty absurd really. I don't want to keep these commissions...The reason that I do them is because sometimes I need extra money and also because I know fans like them. I can't tell you the number of times I've been told by other pro artists that I put too much work into the commissions for the price I charge, but for me its more important that the person receiving the commission feels they got more than their money's worth. Prior to you I've never had a dissatisfied customer, and I've probably done at least 50 commissions. Whether you believe it or not, I do care about each and every one of the people that supports my work. Thats why your accusatory approach is so hurtful to me, because I really want you be happy with the work. I know thats impossible now because you'll probably just be angry every time you look at this commission...Anyway, I'm rambling now. You don't have to worry about me stealing or keeping your commission. I can assure you, I'm not the kind of person that would do that. If by some insane chance your commission doesn't arrive(never happened as long as I've been doing them), I would draw you another one or give you a refund if you wanted. Honestly, the worst part about this whole thing to me is that you seem to have me pegged as this horrible person because I didn't send your commission out when I originally said I would. I didn't say I would send it out knowing that I wouldn't be able to. I honestly can't remember the reason why I didn't send it out, but I can assure you it was either a situation of not having the available funds in my bank account, or having to go on a business trip or something. Are you the only person that has made a promise and then realized you couldn't keep it? As I said in my "blog", I may be slow, but I would never purposefully keep someone's commission. The reason I wrote that blog is because honestly you made me feel pretty crappy with the way you approached this whole situation. I don't have a ton of contact with the outside world as most of my time is spent in my room drawing, so for me, I needed to talk about how I was feeling. If your other contact with me recently is any indication of your empathetic aptitude, I think its pretty obvious that there was no point in voicing these feelings personally to you. I honestly just want you to understand that I never meant to anger you or disrespect you in any way. I do have a lot of things always going on in my life and, right or wrong, many of them take precedence over mailing commissions out. Please refrain from contacting me again if its going to be in an angry, argumentative, or threatening manner. I've never treated you badly(other than taking a long time to send you your commission), and I would like it if you extend me the same courtesy. Again, sorry for the delay, but your commission and sketchbook should be there Thursday at the latest. Thanks."
Thoughts, comments?
No you are not the bad guy. He is irresponsible in handling his commissions plan and simple.
239 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:47 pm
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I find it hard to believe that from March until now he had no time whatsoever to go to the post office. Funds not avialable? Seriously? C'mon son.
240 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:55 pm
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You are not the bad guy here, and the fact that this dickweed is victimizing himself is just indicative of his own lack of respect for his customers and his own serious lack of professionalism. The fact that he CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER why he didn't send the commission out the first time is completely mind-blowing. And the fact that he actually has the balls to say that he's never done anything to hurt you besides take way too goddamn long on your commission is bullshit. How about all the back-and-forth e-mails, trying to contact him with no response, the fact that he had to publish a blog instead of discussing his issues directly, his total irresponsibility with how the situation was handled...is he honestly trying to say that none of that was hurtful? Fuck. That. Guy.
241 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:58 pm
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He's being unprofessional. There was absolutely no reason to make the issue public. As a matter of fact I would think that he would want to keep any issues he's had private, not to put out there to the world that someone is dissatisfied with his work.
The simple fact of the matter is that an e-mail to you instead of ignoring you and putting you off could have eliminated almost all of this.
Not having the money is not an excuse. Anytime I sell anything I make sure that the $ for the shipping is there before I tell someone I'm going to ship it. He could have avoided all this by reserving a portion of what you'd paid him for the shipping instead of spending it all on going to Brazil.
As for his artist friends telling him he doesn't charge enough... well that's something that all artists hear. According to everyone I know I don't charge enough for my stuff either, but it's priced to sell not to make what it's "worth". Any type of art for sale, the price is purely subjective anyway. Sure you can apply all sorts of pricing models to it and come up with what it's worth, but that's not realistically what someone would pay for it.
I don't think that you did anything wrong by "stealing" his mailing list... for one thing HE'S the one that didn't just BCC everyone so NO ONE could see it. That takes 2 seconds. It's not like you sold his list, you simply wanted to see if anyone else was having the same problem you were and instead of making the whole ugly issue public you chose to keep it as private as you could.
He can sit on it an spin. I'm kicking him in the shins if I ever meet him.
The simple fact of the matter is that an e-mail to you instead of ignoring you and putting you off could have eliminated almost all of this.
Not having the money is not an excuse. Anytime I sell anything I make sure that the $ for the shipping is there before I tell someone I'm going to ship it. He could have avoided all this by reserving a portion of what you'd paid him for the shipping instead of spending it all on going to Brazil.
As for his artist friends telling him he doesn't charge enough... well that's something that all artists hear. According to everyone I know I don't charge enough for my stuff either, but it's priced to sell not to make what it's "worth". Any type of art for sale, the price is purely subjective anyway. Sure you can apply all sorts of pricing models to it and come up with what it's worth, but that's not realistically what someone would pay for it.
I don't think that you did anything wrong by "stealing" his mailing list... for one thing HE'S the one that didn't just BCC everyone so NO ONE could see it. That takes 2 seconds. It's not like you sold his list, you simply wanted to see if anyone else was having the same problem you were and instead of making the whole ugly issue public you chose to keep it as private as you could.
He can sit on it an spin. I'm kicking him in the shins if I ever meet him.
242 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:56 pm
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It's just frustrating!!!!!!!
243 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:27 pm
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Spazzy wrote:Ok, I want your thoughts. Here is the latest email from Gunnell about our situation.So was I the bad guy? I mean.. the piece was ready since March and he couldnt mail it out for whatever unknown reason.
- Spoiler:
"Lisa,
I'm not trying to make myself the martyr, I just felt honestly hurt by the approach you took with me. From stealing my e-mail list and e-mailing them about your piece to threatening legal action at the drop of a hat. I never said you weren't justified in being angry, but I felt that you were essentially saying that I was purposefully disrespecting you and that just wasn't the case. I did indeed forget to send the tracking number to you,(I'm actually in a bus right now and don't have it available to give you now) but your commission was sent out Saturday(though it missed the noon deadline for shipping so that means it should probably be there around wednesday or thursday). The fact that you keep threatening legal counsel is exactly why I feel that you're accusing me of trying to steal from you. Its pretty absurd really. I don't want to keep these commissions...The reason that I do them is because sometimes I need extra money and also because I know fans like them. I can't tell you the number of times I've been told by other pro artists that I put too much work into the commissions for the price I charge, but for me its more important that the person receiving the commission feels they got more than their money's worth. Prior to you I've never had a dissatisfied customer, and I've probably done at least 50 commissions. Whether you believe it or not, I do care about each and every one of the people that supports my work. Thats why your accusatory approach is so hurtful to me, because I really want you be happy with the work. I know thats impossible now because you'll probably just be angry every time you look at this commission...Anyway, I'm rambling now. You don't have to worry about me stealing or keeping your commission. I can assure you, I'm not the kind of person that would do that. If by some insane chance your commission doesn't arrive(never happened as long as I've been doing them), I would draw you another one or give you a refund if you wanted. Honestly, the worst part about this whole thing to me is that you seem to have me pegged as this horrible person because I didn't send your commission out when I originally said I would. I didn't say I would send it out knowing that I wouldn't be able to. I honestly can't remember the reason why I didn't send it out, but I can assure you it was either a situation of not having the available funds in my bank account, or having to go on a business trip or something. Are you the only person that has made a promise and then realized you couldn't keep it? As I said in my "blog", I may be slow, but I would never purposefully keep someone's commission. The reason I wrote that blog is because honestly you made me feel pretty crappy with the way you approached this whole situation. I don't have a ton of contact with the outside world as most of my time is spent in my room drawing, so for me, I needed to talk about how I was feeling. If your other contact with me recently is any indication of your empathetic aptitude, I think its pretty obvious that there was no point in voicing these feelings personally to you. I honestly just want you to understand that I never meant to anger you or disrespect you in any way. I do have a lot of things always going on in my life and, right or wrong, many of them take precedence over mailing commissions out. Please refrain from contacting me again if its going to be in an angry, argumentative, or threatening manner. I've never treated you badly(other than taking a long time to send you your commission), and I would like it if you extend me the same courtesy. Again, sorry for the delay, but your commission and sketchbook should be there Thursday at the latest. Thanks."
Thoughts, comments?
What a douche. My opinion is that you are getting your commission and that should be the end of it. It sucks but I have a feeling that you are not the only person he's done this too. I'm sorry this happened to you though.
This. 100% This.WonderWoman2.0 wrote:You are not the bad guy here, and the fact that this dickweed is victimizing himself is just indicative of his own lack of respect for his customers and his own serious lack of professionalism. The fact that he CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER why he didn't send the commission out the first time is completely mind-blowing. And the fact that he actually has the balls to say that he's never done anything to hurt you besides take way too goddamn long on your commission is bullshit. How about all the back-and-forth e-mails, trying to contact him with no response, the fact that he had to publish a blog instead of discussing his issues directly, his total irresponsibility with how the situation was handled...is he honestly trying to say that none of that was hurtful? Fuck. That. Guy.
244 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:29 pm
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Thanks.. I just never want to deal with him again. Its a beautiful piece, but its tainted now.
245 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:31 pm
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Nobody should have to go through shit like that. Ever. It's just not professional. What's his full name again? I want to remember it so I can make sure I never EVER get stuff from him.Spazzy wrote:Thanks.. I just never want to deal with him again. Its a beautiful piece, but its tainted now.
246 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:32 pm
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Micah Gunnell.
247 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:38 pm
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Never heard of him but I doubt I have anything of his. Didn't you say you got a Catwoman commission? Was it this:
http://sonofdavinci.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2pndgi
http://sonofdavinci.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2pndgi
248 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:39 pm
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Yup, thats the one.
249 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:42 pm
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It's quite gorgeous. I'm glad you have it or you will be getting it soon. I just read his "Thank You" message on his eviantART site and he sounds like an asshole.Spazzy wrote:Yup, thats the one.
250 Re: PCN Pop Princess Popcast! Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:44 pm
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The last two blogs are sorta about me. So yeah, I mean the piece is beautiful.. its just he is being such a "victim" and I'm the bad guy bc I wasnt "patient".
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