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Big Poppa Nick wrote:Still listening to the show.

I disagree vehemently that Flair/Rhodes should be anywhere near a WWE list. Rhodes in WWE was him and Sapphire. Flair had one good run in WWE against Macho. If the list is gonna be WWE stuff they have no place on the list.

If they gave any indication that it was strickly a WWE list I would agree with you 100%. But when you have guys like Gorgeous George and others who never saw the WWE come into existance I think its safe to say that it goes beyond any wrestlers WWE tenure.

Just some random thoughts from when I was listening to the show.

Favorite finishing moves: Pepsi Plunge, Muscle Buster,

Worst injury I got: I got a stinger after a friend gave me a stunner, more of an STO really, off of his dining room table.

ROH on HDNet Mondays before Raw

Mike Knox's beard needs to be a playable character in SD vs. Raw

I might be the only person who liked the Undertaker more when he was the biker.

The What gimmick is awful.

Rath99 wrote:

Big Poppa Nick wrote:Still listening to the show.

I disagree vehemently that Flair/Rhodes should be anywhere near a WWE list. Rhodes in WWE was him and Sapphire. Flair had one good run in WWE against Macho. If the list is gonna be WWE stuff they have no place on the list.

If they gave any indication that it was strickly a WWE list I would agree with you 100%. But when you have guys like Gorgeous George and others who never saw the WWE come into existance I think its safe to say that it goes beyond any wrestlers WWE tenure.

I understand what you are saying, but Flair being listed tied at 17 with Dusty is a travesty in itself if they are taking into account his NWA/WCW days.

comicgeekelly wrote:The What gimmick is awful.

Correct

Big Poppa Nick wrote: I disagree vehemently that Flair/Rhodes should be anywhere near a WWE list. Rhodes in WWE was him and Sapphire. Flair had one good run in WWE against Macho. If the list is gonna be WWE stuff they have no place on the list.

Granted, Rhodes didn't get much of a chance to do anything in the WWF. Vince wanted to make a NWA/WCW guy look like a fool. But Ric Flair had ONE good run?? Flair CARRIED Evolution, since it was basically the 4 Horsemen with less talented people. Triple H was doing his best "I wish I was Ric Flair" impression while Flair was out Flair-ing him. Even with Flair with him, Triple H STILL bored the hell out of everyone with his "I'm the GAME-A and I run EVERYTHING-A" shtick. Check out The Rock slaying that fool over his promos if you can find them.

Anyway, Flair's runs with Edge, Mick Foley, Shawn Michaels and even some of the stuff he did with Vince was pretty awesome for a guy his age. Take into account what other wrestlers his age or younger were doing. No falling of ladders and getting hit with barbed wire, that's for fucking sure. He comes from the old school, where guys used psychology to make up for in-ring shortcomings. And while Flair had them for sure around that last year or so, you can't say for real that Flair didn't do anything besides the run with the Macho Man.

Silent K wrote:"Triple H DDTs Scotty 2 Hottie."

Looks like Jared has been out of wrestling for as long as I have.

I've been watching old WWF tapes and Too Cool were on the last few I watched. I could never pronounce Grand Masta Sexuha the way Lawler said it on the show. Sounded like he had a sore throat when he said it.

jfx316 wrote:

Big Poppa Nick wrote: I disagree vehemently that Flair/Rhodes should be anywhere near a WWE list. Rhodes in WWE was him and Sapphire. Flair had one good run in WWE against Macho. If the list is gonna be WWE stuff they have no place on the list.

Granted, Rhodes didn't get much of a chance to do anything in the WWF. Vince wanted to make a NWA/WCW guy look like a fool. But Ric Flair had ONE good run?? Flair CARRIED Evolution, since it was basically the 4 Horsemen with less talented people. Triple H was doing his best "I wish I was Ric Flair" impression while Flair was out Flair-ing him. Even with Flair with him, Triple H STILL bored the hell out of everyone with his "I'm the GAME-A and I run EVERYTHING-A" shtick. Check out The Rock slaying that fool over his promos if you can find them.

Anyway, Flair's runs with Edge, Mick Foley, Shawn Michaels and even some of the stuff he did with Vince was pretty awesome for a guy his age. Take into account what other wrestlers his age or younger were doing. No falling of ladders and getting hit with barbed wire, that's for fucking sure. He comes from the old school, where guys used psychology to make up for in-ring shortcomings. And while Flair had them for sure around that last year or so, you can't say for real that Flair didn't do anything besides the run with the Macho Man.

Flair has always been tight on the stick. He used to be a monster in the ring too. Qualifying his achievements as saying "pretty awesome for a guy his age" kinda proves my point. Evolution was garbage. The other stuff you mentioned was meh. I will grant you that his last match with Shawn was an emotional ride, but not enough to say he really impacted the WWE.

His best run in the WWE was with Savage, where he was very close to his prime. The rest of the stuff, much like Flair in TNA, is an old man holding on for way too long and not knowing when to step away.

jfx316 wrote:

comicgeekelly wrote:The What gimmick is awful.

Correct

QFT!

Big Poppa Nick wrote:His best run in the WWE was with Savage, where he was very close to his prime. The rest of the stuff, much like Flair in TNA, is an old man holding on for way too long and not knowing when to step away.

Fair. His matches against Savage were great, although his matches with Savage were better in WCW. Flair in TNA? Yeah, I can see your point. He's at least putting over the younger cats. Unlike Hogan and the like. He's playing the manager you'd love the sock in the mouth role very well, at least.

Can we at least agree that John Cena shouldn't have been higher then Flair?

I'll school Mary on some old school stuff. I've got a shitload of WWE and ECW DVDs.

Also, OBVIOUSLY she didn't unclick the "let Skype adjust my audio settings" when she called in last night.

jfx316 wrote:

Big Poppa Nick wrote:His best run in the WWE was with Savage, where he was very close to his prime. The rest of the stuff, much like Flair in TNA, is an old man holding on for way too long and not knowing when to step away.

Fair. His matches against Savage were great, although his matches with Savage were better in WCW. Flair in TNA? Yeah, I can see your point. He's at least putting over the younger cats. Unlike Hogan and the like. He's playing the manager you'd love the sock in the mouth role very well, at least.

Can we at least agree that John Cena shouldn't have been higher then Flair?

Cena couldn't carry Flair's jock even now. So yes we can agree.

And yeah the stuff in WCW with Savage was better.

Also, The 11th Hour would love to guest on the show anytime...well...if Jose isn't working. Turd.

I would be ALL OVER a Cena monster-heel turn, AND bringing back Thuganomics.

Also, in response to Jared's "Coon it up" comment and the talk about The Rock in Nation of Domination, I think a revival of the Nation of Domination would be rad. They could work/shoot it about how the WWE uses black wrestlers as a minstrel show. Include Otunga, Mark Henry, Alicia Fox, Ezekial Jackson, JTG, and Teddy Long.

I would like to see Shamus in that new Nation of Domination that Knize wants to build, just to like upset balence.

^YES! BLACK IRISH!

OK so this is what we have so far for names:

The Wrestling Podcast...Fuck you Josh
The A-Show
PoP-Mania
The Pop Main Event
The PoP Wrestling Commentary Show
The Rasslin' Ring Rats
Grappling outside the longbox
Hard Knocks and Cheap PoP!s
The Cheap PoP!Cast
Canned Heat
Curtain Jerkers

Keep them coming

Whipping it outside the ring

The Three-Way Dance

PCW: PoP! Cast Wrestling

Silent K wrote:Also, The 11th Hour would love to guest on the show anytime...well...if Jose isn't working. Turd.

This will happen!!

Silent K wrote:I would be ALL OVER a Cena monster-heel turn, AND bringing back Thuganomics.

Also, in response to Jared's "Coon it up" comment and the talk about The Rock in Nation of Domination, I think a revival of the Nation of Domination would be rad. They could work/shoot it about how the WWE uses black wrestlers as a minstrel show. Include Otunga, Mark Henry, Alicia Fox, Ezekial Jackson, JTG, and Teddy Long.

If they did do a new Nation this would be a pretty cool line-up. I just don't see them rehashing it. DX was something different because one of the members is the owners son in law.

Silent K wrote:PCW: PoP! Cast Wrestling

This might be my new favorite

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^ It just makes sense...

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