Are some people beyond redemption?

Most people here seemed to think in the other thread that people can be evil.
Are some people completly lost and beyond redemption?
Someone who does horrible things like murder dozens of people is that person capable of turning around and becoming a decent human being or are are they too far gone?

Grandpa?

Thundermatts wrote:Grandpa?

Thundermatts wrote:Grandpa?

Gretchen?

People can change. It is possible to have a spiritual awakening of some kind & experience a complete personality overhaul. For example: John Newton, the man who wrote "Amazing Grace." His was more of a 'burning bush,' but more often it's of the gradual, educational variety.

Unfortunately, these genuine instances are few & far between. I don't know what the statistics are, but personally I would be highly skeptical of anyone who claimed to have changed, been redeemed, absolved, rehabilitated etc.

Everyone but Topcat. She's fucked.

^

Are some people beyond redemption? ...I'll say most who have done something horrible can't go back because they won't let themselves. They know they are capable, and will do so if they feel the need. It's like, not to sound trite, people trying to quit sex or smoking...drinking. They can, but they don't want to because it has already been done. Let's do it some more.

Like TopCat, after a person murders another, it would be hard for me to believe that they are perfectly fine. I mean, that would be naive.

BlueMaxx wrote:^

Are some people beyond redemption? ...I'll say most who have done something horrible can't go back because they won't let themselves. They know they are capable, and will do so if they feel the need. It's like, not to sound trite, people trying to quit sex or smoking...drinking. They can, but they don't want to because it has already been done. Let's do it some more.

Like TopCat, after a person murders another, it would be hard for me to believe that they are perfectly fine. I mean, that would be naive.

What?!? What the hell are you saying?
Sale at target?

I don't know anyone trying to quit sex, but you get what I mean. They enjoyed killing (most likely) and'll most likely do it again because they like it.

Oh, monks try to quit sex...? Wait, they never have sex. Wait, is that right? Ya, pretty sure.

You and your monk-ey business!

^ Heh. You knows uh-me!

What would you do RIV1?

FroZen wrote:Everyone but Topcat. She's fucked.

Um... Wrong verb.

BlueMaxx wrote:^ Heh. You knows uh-me!

What would you do RIV1?

That'd make a cool bracelet. WWR1D?

Topcat wrote:

FroZen wrote:Everyone but Topcat. She's fucked.

Um... Wrong verb.

Oh...sorry..I ment....fucked in the head...no wait...that doesn't sound right either...just..forget it.
FroZen Fail!

No way you were gonna win that exchange. you chose the right course of action!

I'm no dummy...I know when I'm on the losing end.

As a man, against a woman, that's like 90% of the time!

^You got that right!!

Maybe Spanky and Alfalfa were right...

[singing] We are he-man woman haters/ We feed girls to alligators/ Our clubhouse burned down mighty low/ But we've got a plan to make some dough!

Depends on the person

^ Really, really depends on the person. Heh.