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Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous?

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1Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Empty Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:49 pm

Chi-Town Spidey

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For the most part...No, but you can't help yourself when you see on TV, open up a newspaper, or look online to find a news story talking about some high school or college kid killing 5-10 of his classmates because they all picked on him or her and he or her couldn't take it.

Seriously, geeks and nerds get emotional scars then anyone else, least that's what I think, but is it because they lack the will to let it go and move, to turn it around and be better the what they received on or is it the person that is dishing out the emotional scar to blame?

I'm a nerd, always have been, and to my knowledge always will be. I've been picked on, beat up, rejected by girls, picked on some more, disrespect, outcast, the whole Nerd card class case. There I times when I would really want something bad to happen to the people that gave me this grief, but I never would want to kill, abuse or even hurt anyone! I just shrug, smile and move on. I don't let it get to me, because who are they to know anything at all? Sure I'll fight back, no worse feeling then being used and abused/taken advantage of. You just need the will to not let it get to you.

Bullies suck, yes it's true. Some never change, some do. Shit, if one of them came up to me and said "Dude, you know what, I was being a jerk back then, I'm really sorry.", that would be fine. I call that a miracle and a vast sign of maturity. Is that it though, we have to wait for people just to mature and hope nothing bad happens. They don't see right there and then of what could happen?

I don't know, but I see it every day when I walk past the school sometimes on my way home from work. One bully and two of his friends picking on a nerd because he's not so tough. Pushing him down, kicking him, and laughing. shake my head One time I yelled at the brat and his sidekicks and they ran away. Helped the poor kid up and he's in tears. "They always pick on me, they never stop, I didn't do anything to him." I even talked to the principle of the school and she handled it, but her response..."I can't watch every kid that gets beat up." In her defense, no she can't but she does know of one she can keep an eye on though, now doesn't she? I hate to think it, but I'm just afraid that little guy is gonna bring a gun to school and BAM! I'll see cops carrying out three body bags because "they picked oh him too much." *sigh*

What do you guys think?

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2Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Empty Re: Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:01 pm

Joshua

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I don't think nerdy people are any more dangerous than anyone else. When I think of the people who fill prisons for violent crimes, I don't think of comic nerds. Have there been nerdy kids who have been bullied to the point where they felt violence was the only solution? Sure, but they're in the severe minority.

3Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Empty Re: Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:01 pm

prescribeddrone

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I pretty much agree with you there. But I think that anybody can be dangerous, most humans have a potential to be dangerous if they let themselves go, doesn't matter if they're into comics and videogames or football and going 'to da club'.

Here is a an essay marilyn manson wrote for Rolling stone magazine after columbine- it sums things up nicely IMO


Columbine: Whose Fault Is It?
by Marilyn Manson



It is sad to think that the first few people on earth needed no books, movies, games or music to inspire cold-blooded murder. The day that Cain bashed his brother Abel's brains in, the only motivation he needed was his own human disposition to violence. Whether you interpret the Bible as literature or as the final word of whatever God may be, Christianity has given us an image of death and sexuality that we have based our culture around. A half-naked dead man hangs in most homes and around our necks, and we have just taken that for granted all our lives. Is it a symbol of hope or hopelessness? The world's most famous murder-suicide was also the birth of the death icon -- the blueprint for celebrity. Unfortunately, for all of their inspiring morality, nowhere in the Gospels is intelligence praised as a virtue.



A lot of people forget or never realize that I started my band as a criticism of these very issues of despair and hypocrisy. The name Marilyn Manson has never celebrated the sad fact that America puts killers on the cover of Time magazine, giving them as much notoriety as our favorite movie stars. From Jesse James to Charles Manson, the media, since their inception, have turned criminals into folk heroes. They just created two new ones when they plastered those dipshits Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris' pictures on the front of every newspaper. Don't be surprised if every kid who gets pushed around has two new idols.



We applaud the creation of a bomb whose sole purpose is to destroy all of mankind, and we grow up watching our president's brains splattered all over Texas. Times have not become more violent. They have just become more televised. Does anyone think the Civil War was the least bit civil? If television had existed, you could be sure they would have been there to cover it, or maybe even participate in it, like their violent car chase of Princess Di. Disgusting vultures looking for corpses, exploiting, fucking, filming and serving it up for our hungry appetites in a gluttonous display of endless human stupidity.



When it comes down to who's to blame for the high school murders in Littleton, Colorado, throw a rock and you'll hit someone who's guilty. We're the people who sit back and tolerate children owning guns, and we're the ones who tune in and watch the up-to-the-minute details of what they do with them. I think it's terrible when anyone dies, especially if it is someone you know and love. But what is more offensive is that when these tragedies happen, most people don't really care any more than they would about the season finale of Friends or The Real World. I was dumbfounded as I watched the media snake right in, not missing a teardrop, interviewing the parents of dead children, televising the funerals. Then came the witch hunt.



?Man's greatest fear is chaos. It was unthinkable that these kids did not have a simple black-and-white reason for their actions. And so a scapegoat was needed. I remember hearing the initial reports from Littleton, that Harris and Klebold were wearing makeup and were dressed like Marilyn Manson, whom they obviously must worship, since they were dressed in black. Of course, speculation snowballed into making me the poster boy for everything that is bad in the world. These two idiots weren't wearing makeup, and they weren't dressed like me or like goths. Since Middle America has not heard of the music they did listen to (KMFDM and Rammstein, among others), the media picked something they thought was similar.



Responsible journalists have reported with less publicity that Harris and Klebold were not Marilyn Manson fans -- that they even disliked my music. Even if they were fans, that gives them no excuse, nor does it mean that music is to blame. Did we look for James Huberty's inspiration when he gunned down people at McDonald's? What did Timothy McVeigh like to watch? What about David Koresh, Jim Jones? Do you think entertainment inspired Kip Kinkel, or should we blame the fact that his father bought him the guns he used in the Springfield, Oregon, murders? What inspires Bill Clinton to blow people up in Kosovo? Was it something that Monica Lewinsky said to him? Isn't killing just killing, regardless if it's in Vietnam or Jonesboro, Arkansas? Why do we justify one, just because it seems to be for the right reasons? Should there ever be a right reason? If a kid is old enough to drive a car or buy a gun, isn't he old enough to be held personally responsible for what he does with his car or gun? Or if he's a teenager, should someone else be blamed because he isn't as enlightened as an eighteen-year-old?



America loves to find an icon to hang its guilt on. But, admittedly, I have assumed the role of Antichrist; I am the Nineties voice of individuality, and people tend to associate anyone who looks and behaves differently with illegal or immoral activity. Deep down, most adults hate people who go against the grain. It's comical that people are naive enough to have forgotten Elvis, Jim Morrison and Ozzy so quickly. All of them were subjected to the same age-old arguments, scrutiny and prejudice. I wrote a song called "Lunchbox," and some journalists have interpreted it as a song about guns. Ironically, the song is about being picked on and fighting back with my Kiss lunch box, which I used as a weapon on the playground. In 1979, metal lunch boxes were banned because they were considered dangerous weapons in the hands of delinquents. I also wrote a song called "Get Your Gunn." The title is spelled with two n's because the song was a reaction to the murder of Dr. David Gunn, who was killed in Florida by pro-life activists while I was living there. That was the ultimate hypocrisy I witnessed growing up: that these people killed someone in the name of being "pro-life."

The somewhat positive messages of these songs are usually the ones that sensationalists misinterpret as promoting the very things I am decrying. Right now, everyone is thinking of how they can prevent things like Littleton. How do you prevent AIDS, world war, depression, car crashes? We live in a free country, but with that freedom there is a burden of personal responsibility. Rather than teaching a child what is moral and immoral, right and wrong, we first and foremost can establish what the laws that govern us are. You can always escape hell by not believing in it, but you cannot escape death and you cannot escape prison.

It is no wonder that kids are growing up more cynical; they have a lot of information in front of them. They can see that they are living in a world that's made of bullshit. In the past, there was always the idea that you could turn and run and start something better. But now America has become one big mall, and because of the Internet and all of the technology we have, there's nowhere to run. People are the same everywhere. Sometimes music, movies and books are the only things that let us feel like someone else feels like we do. I've always tried to let people know it's OK, or better, if you don't fit into the program. Use your imagination -- if some geek from Ohio can become something, why can't anyone else with the willpower and creativity?

I chose not to jump into the media frenzy and defend myself, though I was begged to be on every single TV show in existence. I didn't want to contribute to these fame-seeking journalists and opportunists looking to fill their churches or to get elected because of their self-righteous finger-pointing. They want to blame entertainment? Isn't religion the first real entertainment? People dress up in costumes, sing songs and dedicate themselves in eternal fandom. Everyone will agree that nothing was more entertaining than Clinton shooting off his prick and then his bombs in true political form. And the news -- that's obvious. So is entertainment to blame? I'd like media commentators to ask themselves, because their coverage of the event was some of the most gruesome entertainment any of us have seen.

I think that the National Rifle Association is far too powerful to take on, so most people choose Doom, The Basketball Diaries or yours truly. This kind of controversy does not help me sell records or tickets, and I wouldn't want it to. I'm a controversial artist, one who dares to have an opinion and bothers to create music and videos that challenge people's ideas in a world that is watered-down and hollow. In my work I examine the America we live in, and I've always tried to show people that the devil we blame our atrocities on is really just each one of us. So don't expect the end of the world to come one day out of the blue -- it's been happening every day for a long time.

MARILYN MANSON
(May 28, 1999)

4Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Empty Re: Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:22 pm

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What I've never understood is the need to kill people you don't know or were nice to you, while either letting the bullies survive, or not even going anywhere near them violently.

That's just retarded.

If I want to kill because I'm being bullied, only the bully will get it. No stray shots ricocheting. No innocents getting wounded or worse.

Fuck, don't even do it at school, you dipshits. There's too much chance for error even if you don't want anyone but the bully harmed.

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As for attacking the NRA, that's just as stupid. A gun lying on a table can't do anything. You could stab someone with a pen, are we going to start blaming Bic? Outlawing everything that isn't a crayon? Hell, you could shove the crayon down someone's throat until they choke.

It takes people to kill. Just because the instrument helps, doesn't mean it's to blame.

And outlawing guns won't mean anything. Criminals or stupid kids don't get guns legally. Making it against the law for everyone won't stop people from wanting to do harm with weapons from obtaining them.

5Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Empty Re: Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:55 pm

krpykrwly

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This is relevant to this thread.

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6Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Empty Re: Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:33 pm

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Young nerds just need to realize that they are the most interesting people in their school and in ten years their lives are going to be so much better than most of the people who give them hell.

7Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Empty Re: Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:42 pm

Tripper McGee

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I don't remember anyone ever getting really bullied at any of my schools. I'm sure it happened, but I never saw it. I wouldn't handle that shit. No one gets bullied on my watch!

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8Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Empty Re: Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:57 pm

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Debaser77 wrote:Young nerds just need to realize that they are the most interesting people in their school and in ten years their lives are going to be so much better than most of the people who give them hell.
I used to think this to. Then I met a lot of grown up nerds.

9Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Empty Re: Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:16 pm

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Joshua wrote:
Debaser77 wrote:Young nerds just need to realize that they are the most interesting people in their school and in ten years their lives are going to be so much better than most of the people who give them hell.
I used to think this too. Then I met a lot of grown up nerds.

Laughing

(And, fixt.)

10Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Empty Re: Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:19 pm

Joshua

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TENIME_art wrote:
Joshua wrote:
Debaser77 wrote:Young nerds just need to realize that they are the most interesting people in their school and in ten years their lives are going to be so much better than most of the people who give them hell.
I used to think this too. Then I met a lot of grown up nerds.

Laughing

(And, fixt.)
ARGH. Don't tell Peter!

11Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Empty Re: Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:36 pm

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Joshua wrote:ARGH. Don't tell Peter!

Laughing Wink

12Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Empty Re: Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:53 pm

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TENIME_art for king of angriest of all nerds!

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*plants big wet kiss on bald, bald head*

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13Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Empty Re: Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:59 pm

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Joshua wrote:
TENIME_art wrote:
Joshua wrote:
Debaser77 wrote:Young nerds just need to realize that they are the most interesting people in their school and in ten years their lives are going to be so much better than most of the people who give them hell.
I used to think this too. Then I met a lot of grown up nerds.

Laughing

(And, fixt.)
ARGH. Don't tell Peter!

Tell me what?... Shocked

Laughing OH LOOK AT YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Laughing

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14Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Empty Re: Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:02 pm

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Spider-Man wrote:Tell me what?... Shocked

Laughing OH LOOK AT YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Laughing

lmao


Esbat wrote:*plants big wet kiss on bald, bald head*

I expect one at Halloween. dry

15Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Empty Re: Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:32 am

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I was always a sort of an outsider, especially in my teens, but never suffered from bullying. To me, classes and bullies were always something you see in American movies or TV shows, not in real life. Sure there were more popular people, nerds etc. but generally my school life was pretty positive and I had few people I considered friends on some level. But I still was an outsider nerd who mostly kept himself away from the spotlight.

While no one really been bad to me, I had couple of violent thoughts about my schoolmates and I keep on imagining how I kick someone's ass (someone who irritates me, of course) like I believe most people do. But to take your fantasy and make it real, that's a whole different story. I prefer to watch violent acts in movies or think about hurting someone to soothe my rage, than let it consume me and push to hurt people for real. Basically, on the outside most of the times I'm calm and apathetic than stressed and emotional.

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16Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Empty Re: Are Geeks/Nerds Dangerous? Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:08 pm

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I didn't see the typical Television show bully , but there were gang people that would fuck with people. Of course there were blood and crips, but they had other groups like " Monster Mob"(STUPID ass name ) that were thugs that would fuck with teachers and students. There were also Gothic groups that terrorized other "Nerdy" kids. It is sad one day kid gets picked on, next day he tells his older brother and shoots the bully.
I could cross over to the "NERDY" kids and talk comics and movies. Then I could meet up with all the football players and thugs at a party, so whenever someone fuck with a "NERD" I would have them back off. All you can do is help out the best you can

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