Mnemosis wrote:Re: Gargoyles
1 - Lee and I will both back you up on your Gargoyle love Spazzy, and in fact I was texting Kristin and Mary nonstop as I was listening to you talk about it.
2 - When "doesn't feature minorities enough" Disney makes a show about a Native American female cop going toe-to-toe with the evil white billionaire, equality groups have to shut up a little.
3 - Blending Shakespeare, every mythology you can imagine (just about), and Arthurian lore into one big smoothie of awesome is a recipe for success like none other
4 - Just like X-Men, one of the central themes of Gargoyles was always acceptance. I was a white kid growing up in one of the whitest towns in one of the whitest states in the union, so it's not like the broader application of these themes had any real meaning to me, but I was a socially awkward kid. I glommed on to any characters being persecuted for their differences, and then GOT the broader message as a result.
5 - Gargoyles also dealt deftly with issues of gun safety, literacy, family, honor, duty, abandonment, euthenasia, etc. etc. etc. It never felt as hamfisted as on other shows. This was likely due in part to the Gargoyles being so out of touch/old fashioned. They came from a time and place when reading WASN'T commonplace and guns DIDN'T exist. So to have them scoff at the necessity of literacy or be completely ignorant to the dangers of guns didn't seem even remotely ridiculous. It wasn't like the child actor saying "books are for sissies!" or "I didn't think it was loaded!"
6 - This show had some of the most badass character designs ever, not the least of which was the disembodied, half-torn apart Coyote head
7 - Kristin, you make me sad, dismissing them as "talking Gargoyles" specifically because, if this had been an anime, you would have a Gargoyles hoodie and cosplay as Elisa Maza every year. Instead, you won't even give the show a fair chance. Boo-urns!
BlueMaxx wrote:
Steampunk is gaining more and more fandom. I think it's kind of cool. Depending.
Way to take a stance.
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Although I think I answered Mike's question about the elseworlds wrong 
That's like enjoying anything, depending on whether it's in good form. 
