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Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment.

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76Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:25 am

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This is what I haven't understood. A lot of the of the more rabid fanboys are acting like Wal-mart bought some tiny mom & pop store, but Marvel is a huge corporation as well. This wasn't the case of a bully executing a hostile takeover. This was too very large businesses reaching a mutual agreement for the better of both.[/quote]

This is a good point. This stuff happens in the corporate world all the time. The rabid fanboys are doing what they do best, see an exaggerated worst case scenario and run wild with it.

77Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:28 am

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Joshua wrote:
To be fair, when Dogma started getting death threats for being anti-Catholic Disney cut ties, which is why it was distributed by Lions Gate instead of Miramax.
And Hollywood DID put the screws to the much-maligned ICP after Disney got pressure from some activist groups. No one's track record is perfect. That being said, those are both WAY extreme scenarios far beyond friggin' comics, a proven money-maker.

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78Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:33 am

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Yeah, to compare Marvel's mainstream comic books to ICP would be ludicrous. Hell, I don't know why Disney's getting so much shit when Marvel has done plenty of their own self-censoring, as with Quesada's smoking ban. Why Marvel is suddenly being treated like a victim, particularly by people who have done their own fair share of Marvel/Quesada bashing, is beyond me.
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79Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:42 am

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Joshua wrote:Yeah, to compare Marvel's mainstream comic books to ICP would be ludicrous. Hell, I don't know why Disney's getting so much shit when Marvel has done plenty of their own self-censoring, as with Quesada's smoking ban. Why Marvel is suddenly being treated like a victim, particularly by people who have done their own fair share of Marvel/Quesada bashing, is beyond me.
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80Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:45 am

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i'm cool with this, but god help them if the put their child stars in Runaways or any other Marvel movies!

81Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:53 am

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Spider_Fan14 wrote:i'm cool with this, but god help them if the put their child stars in Runaways or any other Marvel movies!
Yeah, I bet a million nerds complaining on message boards is quite the sting.

82Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:05 pm

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Why would they do that? Why force those kid stars (that suck) on to these movies? They've got the market cornered on young girls with these shows. The goal here is to attack a fresh market. Putting those stars in would alienate that target market on principle alone. Why would they shoot themselves in the foot that bad?

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83Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:11 pm

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Lee wrote:Why would they do that? Why force those kid stars (that suck) on to these movies? They've got the market cornered on young girls with these shows. The goal here is to attack a fresh market. Putting those stars in would alienate that target market on principle alone. Why would they shoot themselves in the foot that bad?
Exactly. Comic book movies draw big star power and Disney is no dope; they will see no reason to change this. Look at Disney's big-budget movies: they don't exactly cast no-talent actors. Johnny Depp, Geoffrey Rush, James McAvoy, Tilda Swinton, Jim Broadbent; I'm done being diplomatic, anyone who thinks Disney is out to torpedo Marvel and Marvel movies is an idiot. Not to mention, it's the DIRECTOR who makes these calls. Studios have input, but the higher-ups at Disney are mostly hands off when it comes to movies being made. Why people are assuming the worst is incomprehensible. Personally, I trust the people who are smart enough to create an international, billion-dollar empire over some sweaty fat kids wearing capes and smelling of french fries.

If Disney DOES end up interfering, then by all means, shout from the rooftops how incompetent they are, but until that happens you just look like a fool. People are bitching about Disney doing things that Disney has never done. It's bizarre.

84Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:11 pm

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See, now you're being naive. Why would they do that? Cross pollination. I'm not saying they WILL, but that's a pretty good why.

All I really want to come of this, to celebrate Marvel's 75th anniversary, would be for Disney to redeco Cinderella's Castle as Castle Doom. 1 Year, then retrofit it back to normal. I just think that would be AMAZING.

85Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:14 pm

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Mnemosis wrote:See, now you're being naive. Why would they do that? Cross pollination. I'm not saying they WILL, but that's a pretty good why.
Like when they put the High School Musical cast in The Chronicles of Narnia? Oh right, they went with unknown British kids. Oops.

People keep bitching about Disney putting lame actors in Marvel movies and have yet to provide examples of them ever doing this or been able to refute any of the examples I have provided.

I will re-iterate, for anyone who seems to have trouble reading beyond the headline:
In announcing its plans, Disney stated that current management at Marvel would remain in place to oversee its operations. Further, Disney did not plan to change Marvel to fit the current Disney brand. The boards of both companies have approved the merger plan, which must still pass an antitrust review and be approved by the companies' stockholders

86Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:25 pm

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Joshua wrote:
Mnemosis wrote:See, now you're being naive. Why would they do that? Cross pollination. I'm not saying they WILL, but that's a pretty good why.
Like when they put the High School Musical cast in The Chronicles of Narnia? Oh right, they went with unknown British kids. Oops.

People keep bitching about Disney putting lame actors in Marvel movies and have yet to provide examples of them ever doing this or been able to refute any of the examples I have provided.

Back the fuck off, son. I'm not bitching. I said there's a perfectly valid reason for them to do it, at no point did I say I would.

You need to chillax and stop thinking that everyone speculating about things is attacking Disney.

87Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:28 pm

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Mnemosis wrote:
Back the fuck off, son. I'm not bitching. I said there's a perfectly valid reason for them to do it, at no point did I say I would.

You need to chillax and stop thinking that everyone speculating about things is attacking Disney.
People=/=you and you alone.

I think I'm coming across as more heated than is my intention, because I don't think I've ever seen you take the gloves off before.

88Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:34 pm

Mnemosis

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Well, you are coming off fairly heated/defensive.

And I know people doesn't just equal me, but when you directly quote me in the same breath, it certainly seems to include me.

My point is just this:

Has Disney done these things in the past? No, doesn't seem that way. Is there still reason to think they could in the future? Sure.

This is a discussion board. I haven't seen anyone here (granted, I haven't TOTALLY been focused) saying "this is the worst thing ever I can't beleive all the Marvel books are going to get censored!" What I've seen, instead, is people saying things like "I hope this doesn't lead to... x"

Granted, when the same concerns are voiced over and over while simultaneously being addressed, it does get a bit frustrating, but I just chock that up to people not reading every post.

Bottom line. No one KNOWS what's going to happen, but it COULD be very interesting. Especially if we get Castle Doom. ::keeps fingers crossed::

89Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:39 pm

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Mnemosis wrote:
Granted, when the same concerns are voiced over and over while simultaneously being addressed, it does get a bit frustrating.
This. Seeing the same unsubstantiated speculation/accusations gets a bit tiresome. And since there hasn't been any kind of precedent, it seems a bit silly to start blaming Disney for things that haven't occurred. It'd be like new parents having their first baby and instead of being excited about all of the possibilities, they immediately start bemoaning all of the things that could go wrong.

Personally, I highly doubt Disney is even interested at all in the comics side of things. I imagine this deal is more about the licensing and the characters.

Castle Doom, while awesome, will never happen unless it's at a separate Marvel park (which is a total possibility).

90Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:43 pm

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Didn't you hear? 2013. Pulp Fiction remake. All of Disney's current pop teen stars will play the leading roles.

And they already plan on casting Zack Efron as Tony Strk;s illegitimate son in Iron Man 3.




























(j/k on all fronts.)

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91Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:47 pm

Mnemosis

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Joshua wrote:It'd be like new parents having their first baby and instead of being excited about all of the possibilities, they immediately start bemoaning all of the things that could go wrong.

You know there ARE people like this, right?

92Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:48 pm

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Mnemosis wrote:
Joshua wrote:It'd be like new parents having their first baby and instead of being excited about all of the possibilities, they immediately start bemoaning all of the things that could go wrong.

You know there ARE people like this, right?
Yeah, and they're assholes.

93Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:49 pm

Mnemosis

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Spidey_82 wrote:Didn't you hear? 2013. Pulp Fiction remake. All of Disney's current pop teen stars will play the leading roles.

And they already plan on casting Zack Efron as Tony Strk;s illegitimate son in Iron Man 3.

Dude, you got it wrong. Efron will be teen Tony after being brought forward from the past, a la pre-Heroes Reborn 616 continuity.

94Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:52 pm

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Mnemosis wrote:
All I really want to come of this, to celebrate Marvel's 75th anniversary, would be for Disney to redeco Cinderella's Castle as Castle Doom. 1 Year, then retrofit it back to normal. I just think that would be AMAZING.

Castle Doom Laughing They should have Doom Bots selling Doom-ade and Doom Fries out side the castle. Laughing Dr. Doom would sit on his thrown (sp?) and every entrant to the park must genuflect before him. Doom taking over Disney World would be awesome Laughing

95Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:53 pm

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Castle Doom Laughing They should have Doom Bots selling Doom-ade and Doom Fries out side the castle. Laughing Dr. Doom would sit on his thrown (sp?) and every entrant to the park must genuflect before him. Doom taking over Disney World would be awesome Laughing
I just had a full body nerdgasm.

96Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:56 pm

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Mnemosis wrote:See, now you're being naive. Why would they do that? Cross pollination. I'm not saying they WILL, but that's a pretty good why.
I think that's preposterous. They know what they have in their kid stars. What they've got are bankable faces for a particular crowd, NOT the next crop of fine young actors. That's cross-pollination like putting porn in private schools just because both make a lot of money.

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Ric Magnum wrote:
Mnemosis wrote:
All I really want to come of this, to celebrate Marvel's 75th anniversary, would be for Disney to redeco Cinderella's Castle as Castle Doom. 1 Year, then retrofit it back to normal. I just think that would be AMAZING.

Castle Doom Laughing They should have Doom Bots selling Doom-ade and Doom Fries out side the castle. Laughing Dr. Doom would sit on his thrown (sp?) and every entrant to the park must genuflect before him. Doom taking over Disney World would be awesome Laughing

This is what I'm saying! The idea of Doom conquering a "Magic Kingdom." Do a commemorative comic that's exclusive to the park of how Doom conquers Disney but Mickey the Giant Killer wards him off or some such! It'd be great!

Lee wrote:
Mnemosis wrote:See, now you're being naive. Why would they do that? Cross pollination. I'm not saying they WILL, but that's a pretty good why.
I think that's preposterous. They know what they have in their kid stars. What they've got are bankable faces for a particular crowd, NOT the next crop of fine young actors. That's cross-pollination like putting porn in private schools just because both make a lot of money.

THAT is effing hysterical! I don't necessarily agree, but you win the argument for making me piss myself.

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just saw the interveiw of this on attack of the show, didn't make me happy one too bit. But yeah, i get what you guys are saying of how Pirates of the Carribean was dark and kickass, they need jerry bruckhiemer-ness for these type of movies (excluding G-Force).

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Spider_Fan14 wrote:they need jerry bruckhiemer-ness for these type of movies.
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100Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. - Page 4 Empty Re: Disney to acquire Marvel Entertainment. Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:51 pm

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Spider_Fan14 wrote:just saw the interveiw of this on attack of the show, didn't make me happy one too bit. But yeah, i get what you guys are saying of how Pirates of the Carribean was dark and kickass, they need jerry bruckhiemer-ness for these type of movies (excluding G-Force).
And Pirates of the Carribean is an in-house property. Marvel is now one of over a dozen OTHER companies under the Disney umbrella. Seriously, five years from now, no one will remember this even happened.

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