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Re: The official; Doctor who thread Tue May 04, 2010 8:29 am
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477 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Tue May 04, 2010 9:11 am
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Foreigner_Man wrote:^Jherek, those are some excellent points.
So he took her with him to keep an eye on her & see how much wibbly-wobbly stuff is going on? Could the Daleks be behind all this since they escaped in VotD? Maybe the tried to get back to the Time War or the Medusa cascade, with dreadful consequences (the crack in the wall?). Or maybe they went off to open the Pandorica..
Also, to answer one of Jherek's questions
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Little Amy and the Doctor on set, filming for what could be the season finale.
I think that clinches it. Also in the 'continuity jump' in the forest notice how his jacket is brown. He doesn't have a brown jacket...Yet.
478 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Tue May 04, 2010 9:18 am
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That's pretty much the speculation on the official 2000ad website Jherek
479 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Tue May 04, 2010 3:00 pm
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shining knight wrote:That's pretty much the speculation on the official 2000ad website Jherek
Is it? I knew I was on to something!
480 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Tue May 04, 2010 3:06 pm
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I've been so busy I have not been able to watch any of the new doctor yet. I don't have cable either. Is there anywhere you can watch it online? I tried looking on youtube a little bit, but I kept seeing trailers, not episodes. 
481 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Tue May 04, 2010 3:27 pm
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http://dwhd.co.nr/Ska wrote:I've been so busy I have not been able to watch any of the new doctor yet. I don't have cable either. Is there anywhere you can watch it online? I tried looking on youtube a little bit, but I kept seeing trailers, not episodes.
482 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Tue May 04, 2010 5:39 pm
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Jherek wrote:I may be right out on a limb here but I've just put some things together that have been nagging at me about this season so far and come up with a theory.
It started with that scene where the Doctor escapes the Angels by slipping out of his jacket. Knowing Moffat never writes a scene without a purpose I wondered why the Doctor needed to lose his jacket at this point in the plot.
Next scene he leaves Amy with the soldier/clerics and then comes back briefly to tell her to remember what he said to her when she was seven? Why was he wearing his jacket? He'd lost it to the Angels and at no stage throughout the rest of the episode was he wearing it. Except there.
Continuity error? from this production team? I think not.
There's some wibbly wobbly timey wimey shennanigans going on here. Look at that scene. The Doctor's hair is untousled, he's wearing the jacket and the unexpectedness of it all is jarring. There's also suddenly more echo on his voice, and a forehead kiss that means those two or three lines suddenly mean a lot more to him.
With me so far? Now, think back to episode one.
After defeating the Atraxi the Doctor gets in the Tardis and leaves nineteen year-old Amy in the garden. Then we cut to her sitting on her suitcase in the same spot when she's seven, but not in the nighttime, in daylight. The Tardis engines sound and she looks up with a smile on her face. Then we get another jump cut edit to adult Amy in bed, waking when she hears the Tardis engines.
So, did the Doc return to Amy when she was seven and she just forgot all about it? Or is she having a dream about waiting for him as a child, and that dream is inspired by the reality of the Tardis making its (brakes on) noise as it appears outside her bedroom.
On first viewing that seems to be the case but...taken with that anomalous continuity jump in this weeks episode I think this is what's going on -
In the season finale the Doctor will end up jumping back into Amy's timeline and planting the seeds of something in her head, to help deal with whatever's coming. And the crack is either the consequence of that meddling, or the problem that he needs to solve by doing so.
And this ties into the 'fairy tale' alternate reality that Amy's over-active imagination has created. 'The Raggedy Doctor Universe' if you like.
And the clue is -
How do you know it's a duck pond if there aren't any ducks in it?
Episode one -
Doctor: And WHAT is that?"
Amy : It's a duck pond"
Doctor: Then why aren't there any ducks in it?
Amy: There's never been any ducks
Doctor: Then how do you know it's a duck pond?
Amy: Is it important?"
Doctor: I don't know. Why would I know?
Is it that there's never been any ducks? Like there's never been any Daleks? Like there's never been any clerics watching Amy in the woods?
When Amy finally gets back into The Tardis, she asks The Doctor why he picked her out of everyone. He tells her there's no reason and that it's just that he's lonely and needs a bit of fun. She asks if that's all and he says yes it is. Right in front of a graphic depiction of the crack in her wall on the Tardis display monitor.
He knows something here that he's not letting on, and it's very possible his time away has not just been spent on a quick trip around the moon.
So when they're in the forest and things are about to start getting erased from history there's this little exchange...
Episode Five
Doctor: Remember what I told you when I was seven.
Amy: What did you tell me?
Doctor: That's not the point
So what is the point?
Is it that the fact she doesn't remember and nor do we. We haven't heard him give her any advice when she was seven. He's yet to go back and give it.
Wibbly wobbly timey wimey. I'm loving this season!
I also noticed the Jacket was back on in that scene and I'm totally with you, that was done with a purpose in mind.
So due to the cracks, nobody on Earth remembers anything and Emily Pond is the key to something bigger? Also does this mean that U.N.I.T no longer exists?
483 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Wed May 05, 2010 12:34 pm
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I'm a also a bit worried about that injection River gave Amy. It was never paid off so I expect it has some ramifications further down the line. Don't forget - next time we see River will be (I assume) in the finale for the 'opening of the Pandorica' which she says she remembers well. So, assuming Amy is gonna be there for the opening too the Weeping Angels adventure would have been (at least) the second time River has met Amy. Though the first time Amy has met River. 
I love the way Moffat actually deals with the paradoxes of Time Travel in a way that, strangely, Doctor Who never has before.
I love the way Moffat actually deals with the paradoxes of Time Travel in a way that, strangely, Doctor Who never has before.
484 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Wed May 05, 2010 12:50 pm
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Any suggestions on who River may have killed?
485 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Wed May 05, 2010 12:51 pm
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OY!!!
These fucking tags exist for a reason:
These fucking tags exist for a reason:
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- USE THEM
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486 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Wed May 05, 2010 12:54 pm
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agreed. its just the polite thing to do.superdoug wrote:OY!!!
These fucking tags exist for a reason:
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487 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Wed May 05, 2010 1:03 pm
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Sorry, i figured people were caught up by now.488 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Wed May 05, 2010 1:04 pm
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TheeDoctorWhoHasDreads? wrote:
Yeah...I only watch the episodes as they air on BBC America, because my boyfriend really likes Doctor Who, and there are few scripted shows that we both enjoy like that. So, I have yet to see the first part of the Weeping Angels.
489 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Wed May 05, 2010 1:09 pm
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Saw 'Time of Angels' & 'Flesh and Stone' and I must say, when TV's this good, it's an absolute privilege. This was brilliant. River Song and the Angels return, and neither disappoint. There are so many great moments, along with some very creepy ones and you just have to love both of them.
This was an excellent episode. Bravo!
Oh, and TheeDoctor:
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- What'd you guys think of Amy's advances to the doctor? I thought it was hilarious. Amy's relationship is so much more interesting than Donna, Rose, and Martha.
I wonder if this is going to affect Rory's relationship with Amy, but then again, they're relationship's always been damaged (Amy had him dress as the doctor as a kid).
This was an excellent episode. Bravo!
Oh, and TheeDoctor:
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- I saw it as Octavian was hinting that River kills the doctor. If that's true, that sounds like a brilliant/interesting way to send off Smith or Moffat (or both).
490 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Wed May 05, 2010 1:12 pm
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Foreigner_Man wrote:Saw 'Time of Angels' & 'Flesh and Stone' and I must say, when TV's this good, it's an absolute privilege. This was brilliant. River Song and the Angels return, and neither disappoint. There are so many great moments, along with some very creepy ones and you just have to love both of them.
- Spoiler:
This was an excellent episode. Bravo!
Oh, and TheeDoctor:
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^Yes, that is what I was thinking too.
491 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Thu May 06, 2010 8:13 am
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So got my mitts on the newest issue of doctor who magazine and can't remember if this news has appeared on this thread yet but...
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- Russel t davies is writing an two parter of sarah jane adventures featuring Matt smiths doctor and Jo grant!!
492 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Thu May 06, 2010 8:24 am
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I heard that on a podcast. Apparently....shining knight wrote:So got my mitts on the newest issue of doctor who magazine and can't remember if this news has appeared on this thread yet but...
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- it deals with Jo Grant getting married I believe
493 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Thu May 06, 2010 3:54 pm
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superdoug wrote:OY!!!
These fucking tags exist for a reason:
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Soz if I spoiled anything dude. I forget sometimes how lucky we Brit Who fans are. But believe me I could have spoiled a whole lot more
494 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Thu May 06, 2010 3:55 pm
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supervenom wrote:agreed. its just the polite thing to do.superdoug wrote:OY!!!
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Ditto.
495 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Thu May 06, 2010 3:58 pm
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shining knight wrote:So got my mitts on the newest issue of doctor who magazine and can't remember if this news has appeared on this thread yet but...
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Yeah I saw that.
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- Man I had the biggest crush on Jo Grant back in the day
496 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Thu May 06, 2010 4:01 pm
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Foreigner_Man wrote:Saw 'Time of Angels' & 'Flesh and Stone' and I must say, when TV's this good, it's an absolute privilege. This was brilliant. River Song and the Angels return, and neither disappoint. There are so many great moments, along with some very creepy ones and you just have to love both of them.
- Spoiler:
This was an excellent episode. Bravo!
Oh, and TheeDoctor:
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- I think Moffat just threw that out there to see what reaction it got. I don't think he knows himself yet. What I want to know is who taught her to fly the Tardis?
497 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Thu May 06, 2010 11:19 pm
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That's pretty cool.jaydee74 wrote:I heard that on a podcast. Apparently....shining knight wrote:So got my mitts on the newest issue of doctor who magazine and can't remember if this news has appeared on this thread yet but...
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- I wonder how Russell will be writing Matt Smith-Doctor & Amy. Also, another wedding?
498 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Thu May 06, 2010 11:25 pm
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Jherek wrote:
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- That would be interesting if Moffat's just making it up as he goes along. Still, if you want to one-up Tennant's regeneration, having River kill the Doctor could be the way to go.
I'm intrigued about who taught her to fly the TARDIS as well, but flying the Doctor's TARDIS isn't exactly as special as killing him. I mean, even Donna's flown it, though granted not as expertly as River.
Of course, there's a very big possibility that Moffat won't ever give us any answers to any of these questions.
499 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Fri May 07, 2010 8:34 am
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I'm curious to see how this season plays out. Should be interesting and you know that we're going to see more of River which is awesome. I wonder if she'll become a companion at some point?
500 Re: The official; Doctor who thread Fri May 07, 2010 1:00 pm
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^I doubt she'll become a regular companion, it would ruin what makes her special. I think she'll show up every season or two, but not be there like a regular companion would.
Jherek, I've been thinking about the whole thing with the coat.
Jherek, I've been thinking about the whole thing with the coat.
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- Could there be two doctors in that scene? If the doctor can go back to little Amy, then he could have left in 'Flesh and stone' to a yet to be revealed location, then come back, dressed differently. Wibbly wobbly timey whimey.
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