The Return (?) of Mikey

superdoug wrote:For the record, I think that this poll started out too biased to be fair. It probably shouldn't have been opened for discussion, maybe not even a vote. I'm willing to bet that more than half the people who voted 'fuck that guy' were not around during his heyday here, and are simply voting that way because Mom and Dad seemed to be voting that way, and have no clear interaction with Mikey.

Granted, Mikey could be a dick, and his last two threads were designed as nothing more than an attempt to piss off the administration, but many people who voted and commented in this thread have admitted to having no experience with him. They're basing their votes on something that was, at its heart, a personal confrontation made public.

I noticed that, at first, people were willing to give Mikey a chance to redeem himself until K said 'if he gets 15 'fuck hims', then he's banned no matter what.' The number jumped on 'fuck him' almost immediately. So...did those numbers jump because Mikey is a well-loathed former member of the WUMB and PoP!, or did they jump because people wanted to be part of the vote on a lifetime ban?

Admin's decision is the final one, but I don't think this vote was done in a manner that could be considered fair to Mike's case.

Joshua wrote:

Gojiratoho wrote:I thought the "If we get 15 Fuck That Guy votes, it doesn't happen" was referring to a separate review thread of leather jackets not happening, not an instant ban.

That's exactly what it was in reference too. It was a completely separate joke that really had nothing to do with Mikey. I can't imagine it had much bearing on the poll because 1.) it was, I thought, completely irrelevant to Mikey's status and 2.) 'Fuck that Guy' already had something like 14 votes when Jason said that, so it's not like those votes suddenly tipped the scales after the joke was made.

superdoug wrote:Look, here's the deal: Yes, Mikey was an ass-hat, and fully earned his banning before. But, for him to return, and (I'm guessing) apologize and ask to be let back in takes a lot of courage and a certain amount of humility, particularly the way he flounced out of here.

I voted to let him come back, but keep the banhammer ready. And make sure he knows that it's poised up there to come down firmly should he get that wild hair once more.

supervenom wrote:let him back in but have the banhammer ready.

Silent K wrote:His original login was banned, then MikeySaysFuckYou (and I'm sure a few others), and then Nutter Butter.

Would anyone be interested in letting Mikey plead his case?

BTW, just like my feelings towards frilly toothpicks, my stance on letting Mikey back is I'm FOR IT!

Silent K wrote:

Gojiratoho wrote:
Now what everyone should ask themselves is....are we saying let him back in because we are magnanimous and want to believe he's changed and want to give him another chance, or do we want him here because we know he'll eventually purposefully say hurtful things to someone and we can laugh and say "what a douchebag, banhammer his ass" and pat ourselves on the back because we did our due diligence and were the bigger man but he's still a shallow prick. Because if it's the latter, then we are all as big of a prick as he is.

Brilliant point made.

I'm just curious to see why someone who totally shit on this place would beg to come back.

Silent K wrote:Stick a fork in him.

Joshua wrote:Since there was no outcry of people wishing they'd voted differently I imagine the results wouldn't vary much were the poll to be re-done.

superdoug wrote:

Joshua wrote:Since there was no outcry of people wishing they'd voted differently I imagine the results wouldn't vary much were the poll to be re-done.

My point is that there shouldn't have been a poll in the first place. It sends the message that the administration is a 'one member, one vote' democracy, which it isn't and cannot be on a message board. Particularly when the results of a poll can be overridden by the admin should they decide something is a good idea in spite of public opinion.

The hurts were done to the admin; the admin's opinion is ultimately the only one that matters.

krpykrwly wrote:Once again, The Clique rears its ugly head.

potatojoe wrote:I'd say we have 14 yes, 20 no, and 11 I dont care.

krpykrwly wrote:Once again, The Clique rears its ugly head.

Rath99 wrote:I never voted. I wanted to hear from him to see why he wanted back in after spewing all that venom.