Batman

Batman25JM wrote:
Here's a little picture to explain how I see Morrison's writing:

Batman25JM wrote:
Well first of all, sorry for the error. While I did know the whole story I copied the Wikipedia entry on Bruce being Terry's biological son, and then edited it down so it was more concise, and to save me from having to write the whole thing out. I missed my error.


The problem I have with Morrison is he makes these leaps out of nowhere. Instead of going from A to B he goes from A to O. I don't think he explains things well enough. Things just pop up out of nowhere.

I can get complex stories, but his are just too insane for me to follow most of the time.

Here's a little picture to explain how I see Morrison's writing:

Batman25JM wrote:

Jherek wrote:

Batman25JM wrote:^Sorry if I spoiled anything for you.

It wasn't revealed that Bruce was Terry's biological father until the Justice League Unlimited episode "Epilogue", which takes place 15 years after the conclusion of Batman Beyond.

Amanda Waller decided that the world needed Batman, and when she saw that Bruce was slowing down/getting older she decided to make a new one. The name of the project to make a new Batman was "Project Batman Beyond". She got Bruce's DNA from the battlefield., and obtained Bruce Wayne's DNA. She found a young couple with psychological profiles nearly identical to Bruce's parents, and injected Warren McGinnis with a nanotech solution programmed to re-write his reproductive material into an exact copy of Bruce Wayne's. Making Bruce Terry's biological son.

Years later Waller sent the Phantasm (Andrea Beaumont, first seen in Batman: Mask of the Phantasm) to kill Terry's parents. She thought that tragedy was the second half of the equation to making a Batman. The Phantasm couldn't go through with it, and Waller decided that it was wrong to kill the parents. Derek Powers (Bruce's business partner) would later have Terry's father murdered, resulting in Terry becoming the new Batman.

Now Bats, You know me of old so I know you won't be offended by what I write next...

See this is what I don't get about you. You cite the above convoluted, forced, techno-babble heavy and quite frankly unreadable continuity porn. (I gave up after 'The name of the project to make a new Batman was "Project Batman Beyond". She got Bruce's DNA from the battlefield., and obtained Bruce Wayne's DNA.' ) And yet you claim Grant Morrison's writing is incomprehensible. I don't get it.

Anyway no offence meant. Really.

Well first of all, sorry for the error. While I did know the whole story I copied the Wikipedia entry on Bruce being Terry's biological son, and then edited it down so it was more concise, and to save me from having to write the whole thing out. I missed my error.

Second, I don't think it's convoluted or unreadable. I think it's pretty straight forward. Despite my error I don't see what is so hard to understand about it.

The problem I have with Morrison is he makes these leaps out of nowhere. Instead of going from A to B he goes from A to O. I don't think he explains things well enough. Things just pop up out of nowhere.

I will say that there are some convoluted stories out there that I get. Just because it's convoluted doesn't mean it's incomprehensible. With Morrison, there are convoluted stories of his that aren't THAT hard to get. However, the majority of his work that I've read is. I just don't get his style. Maybe my brain works in a different way than others? Some writers just don't click with some readers. One person can see a story clearly while another can see it as a convoluted mess that makes no sense. I can't explain it better than that.

I can get complex stories, but his are just too insane for me to follow most of the time.

Here's a little picture to explain how I see Morrison's writing:

Batman25JM wrote:^I think you're right.


Here's the part of Epilogue where Amanda Waller tells Terry about Project Batman Beyond:

jaydee74 wrote: So basically, Terry has three parents. A mom and two dad's

Batman25JM wrote:Batman #701

I wasn't going to get this because I've sworn off Morrison books, however the thought of having a whole in my Batman run (which is by no means a complete run, but I do have every issue since I started really reading comics about 4 years ago) bugged me. So, I bought it. I have to say, I didn't hate it. I by no means loved it, but I didn't want to hunt Morrison down and break his hands so he could never write again.

Jherek wrote:No this story really didn't need to be told. I get the feeling that Morrison was asked to do this as a 'catch up' issue for casual readers before The Return of Bruce Wayne concludes and whatever happens next happens (which would be Batman Inc I guess). I mean this is exactly what Morrison was avoiding with his 'miss out the cut scenes' style in both Batman RIP and Final Crisis so I really suspect that he was forced into this. I mean we got it the first time didn't we? Batman escaped the crashed copter, returned to the cave and was nursed back to health by Alfred while planning his attack on Doctor Hurt when the Final Crisis hit. We don't need to be spoon fed the narrative. Even so it read great and the scene with Superman was cool; proving that even a hacked out Morrison comic is better than 90% of other books out there.